Tree of Savior Forum

Most recent price changes to repairs and items

General Discussion
#1

This is my opinion solely. and one founded on every waking hour playing before the changes and after the changes, and then back to the original way.

First. We as a community loved the money we were receiving from the original prices. Correlating that to the price of a full repair (costing little) we all felt like we were making money constantly. Pushing that extra money into attributes felt like we were advancing our character at a steady (non stagnant) pace. That’s wonderful right? We all felt good right? Well right before the change there were videos floating around forums showing ppl will millions of gold… their “Learn Immediately” attributes were up to lvl 90+ costing 200k a pop or higher. Only a VERY small percentage of ppl watched these videos. That means a SIGNIFICANT portion of the population has no clue this is happening to some but not the majority. A lot of people that were stagnant with money to begin with (meaning not focused on saving their money, IE dumping their money into their attributes or potions were already hard up on money) were not understanding why you would make this increase in repair cost and decrease in item/recipe vendor prices. They did cry. I use cry loosely because really they were just making their dislike of the changes known. Immediately. Understandably for them. You cant really argue their very valid point regardless if you dont like how constructive their spam crying was. But heres the kicker… the honest truth. Once you get used to the new ratios, you understand why its like that. For all lvls, and all aspects of the game. The ppl that knew about those attribute lvl 90 characters, knew that they wouldnt beable to sustain that bad beat anymore. Once you got used to the system it felt right. Now we come full circle to the reverting back to old way. Now im making money CRAZY money… and im about to get to those 90 attribute ppl with very little time invested. That is why I feel like we should revert back to your decision into KCBT ways. It makes sense from a stand back and look at the game outside of the box sort of way.

#2

You can never satisfy everybody

Even if you managed to reach that certain point with little investment, you shouldn’t only think about solemnly yourself. Sure, you find the game easy and fast-tracked due to how much you’re making right now but others are having a hard time due to their class, time, etc. Not everyone is on the same level as you, and the reason why they reverted back to the old prices was because the MAJORITY of the players are not ready. In Korea, most people who actually play games usually spend more than the average time than the time spent by Foreigners(non-Koreans) which was why they reduced the prices of each item and increased repair prices due to the fact that most gamers in Korea are the warriors of the grind. We, the casuals, will most probably never reach their level due to our lives revolving to something else. It’s not because we “cry”, it’s because we’ll find no progress at all. Once OBT starts, what would happen if the high repair prices and low selling prices remained? You’ll feel the same way as those people who wanted the old prices back since they know if it didn’t, playing the game is just the same as trying to dig a hole that will lead you to an endless loop.

#3

id like to reply to that with 2 things.

first why are you assuming im of the ladder? Im not. I was the broke archer taht spent every bit of money everytime he got some into potions… once i figured out i would never increase myself if i didnt stop that way of playing, and actually save my money, and NOT “repair all” was I ever going to get anywhere further on the scale of “success”

to better help you understand, after the changes, i started to farm a recipe for a new bow i needed… if i was to make the bow it sold for 4k. if i sold the recipe right at 2k… Ok… well farming 1 recipe takes about 10 minutes or less. I actually just kinda smoked some weed and farmed it for over a hour… I had 7 recipes of the same bow, (and the mats drop for the bow from the same mob)… after they revert back to the changes. the BOW made, sells for 30k… WTF… 210k instantly… compared to 36k for the same hours work… at what… lvl 60… are you kidding? you are kidding right??? the old way is too much just way too much…which makes your character OP everytime you enter a new map… its why lvl 50’s are taking on lvl 70+ quests… their quickly overpowering themselves… THAT is my take on the whole situation.

secondly i would quickly respond with the endless loop is mitigated with the fact that your mindset HAS to be different with the new way. period. You cant dump your money into repair all, You cant spam “immediate lvl attributes”… You stp and think… do i want 5 more lvls into this skill or wait and save my money and dump it into my next circles skills.

#4

i would also like to add another addition to the mindset of old “Lots of gold” vs the KCBT’ mindset".

as soon as it changed to KCBT ways, i couldnt just port back and run to blacksmith, click repair, click select all, click repair, and mindlessly repair all of my gear, making a (select the gear you want to repair) feature of the game useless. (by bypassing it with select all)… <========== thats the idea money means jack ■■■■…

I had to stop and think. well my bow has 30 dura still. thats a hour if not more of hunting. i could let my boots break before i came back, or this and that senario… and save myself money… actually adding a whole layer of depth into the game.

as soon as they reverted back. i also reverted back to quickly selecting repair all and ignoring any aspect of though the game was designed for (when it came to repairing).

plz dont respond indicating that you are for the idea of making it as close to unimportant to repair as not even having a repair function to begin with… you can do that for me right?

#5

Lol, I’d rather live with 0 dura than to having a repair function being useless. But yes, you have to stop and think, but this is not the case of most people too[sigh, it’s quite sad.] I’m not against you, but it was because of the majority that the rollback of prices occurred. Probably in a few days, the KCBT prices will be called back but for now, we’re stuck with the old prices. We can’t rely on a silver spoon alone, we also have to learn by adapting[which will be soon found in the community, hopefully.]

#6

I agree that it feels like we make way too much now. When the game goes into next beta they should try it again from the beginning, but I dont feel like they should switch it up on us halfway through. Doesnt really matter if people have 100mil during beta it will all be wiped anyway.