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I was thinking to roll a monk char, mainly for fun, and this are the stats that I would try probably, even If after the changes to the gems IDK at the moment.
Keep in mind that monk is nice with a bit of str and u don’t need to go full dex like a palinqui for the conviction/smash combo, so ignoring str is a bit of nono for monk, at least IMO.
lvl 380+ the 38 extra points (no hidden quests into consideration)
I would say still decent crit rate with monstrance and good punchs, but it’s a pve stat (low con)
That sad, I would look for people that can give you a decent feedback after the red gem buff in off hand or I would check the forum this days for general discussion about it!
STR is useless on Monk because Monk skills will only make up a fraction of your DPS. In fact Monk is only worth taking 1 circle for DP as a filler skill.
Inquis will be your main source of DMG and DEX is by far the superior stat for this.
And since Pala/Inquis was mentioned I’ll also let you know that Pala3/Inquis just for the Conviction is not worth it. God Smash is actually our weakest skill.
Actually Godsmash is incredibly powerful, specially with conviction. If you place the wheel on top of an enemy and Godsmash him, it will hit twice. Once for the normal hit and once for the wheel spread. Couple that with conviction , which crits for about 90k, and you are doing like 180k per smash.
God Smash crits for ~30k on average without conviction, not 45k. So that that’s 60k per smash, doubled to 120k. It’s not actually that impressive considering it takes TWO skills with relatively long cooldowns to achieve that at the cost of 3 circles.
Pears of Anguish can do many times more damage than all 3 God Smash (even with conviction + wheel) and has a shorter cooldown.
Crits 30k for you maybe not for me. Hell my friends godsmash does 66k non crit with conviction with no outside buffs. Mines not that strong I do around 50k non crit
“Pears of Anguish can do many times more damage than all 3 God Smash (even with conviction + wheel) and has a shorter cooldown.” Yes and they can still do that same damage while having the godsmash damage. Picking paladin doesn’t prevent you from using pears.
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That-s it. Saying paladin is not worth is retarded.
One of the best Ktos meta set up atm in pve is fencer and dragoon with murmillo plus palinqui LOL, thats sad but conviction make a gigantic difference, and not for god smash, u should check some video of how much DPS fencer plus dagoon can bring in that set up xD
The problem is that monk gives so little to the table, but to go monk 1 and inqui in dex, can I ask why u are not going for an INT build with inqui at the top end if u like to play inqui? ANY int cleric with Inqui at the end will dish out much more DPS then a monk 1 inqui 1and have better utility then your build, thats the real problem for me.
And stop thinking of wheel conviction as “only” a DPS burst.
Ofc is nice in solo, OFC my Archer 1 ranger 3 rogue 1 SR 3 with werewolf capped cards, good attributes and plus 10 manamana do more damage. Now try to figure out what does conviction on a wheel in party play, plus restoration, plus resist elements capped, plus new attribute to barrier. Now go back and think what your monk 1 X X inqui does in party or solo play. Rethink.
Even worst the fact that monk is rank 5, worst possible one for clerics couz u have to pick TWO fillers circles after cleric 2, and pls dont say diev 2 or priest 2 are good fillers. Priest 1 gives you all you need in this patch time aka monstrance and ress, and diev 2 is ROFLMAO rather then diev 3. You are wasting one circle instead of paladin, and since you both picked PD at rank 7, what are you gaining with the free rank 6? Oracle? And you give up ALL the paladin utilities for that? KAPPA
The real problem to me is that monk is a trash class, playable just for fun, and inquisitor didnt really fixed the problem. Rank 8 really didnt helped, the monk damage is way to trash and rank 8 classes have NO sinergy for him, inquisitor for monk is only a filler class and, if he will not receive some love at rank 9, is kinda hard to see the point on why you should play it. Inquisitor as it core is an hybrid utility class with interesting debuff and aoe comboes created by the wheel, much more like a paladin, not a DPS class just because of god smash.
The fact that monk is a rank 5 class and is DPS becomed trash in this patch time since, lets be honest, rank 8 was game changing for ALL the DPS melee classes, is what make monk sad, not the fact that conviction on wheel is not worth it {and, btw, IT IS worth it}
I have both Monk 2 -Kabba - Inqui and Pala3 - Monk - Inqui. The pala will out damage it sooo hard and my monk has 85% on EB. I can say that double punch with really good gear and attributes, mines at 90% on monk, does about 10k each hit of DP. Besides that theres not much to it, you can spread one inch and palm strike which are only good through Malleus. With malleus debuff the dots do about 4k per tick each which is nice.
Monk 1 is a good class on it’s own though if you spend on attributes. I don’t see the point to monk 2 and 3 as EB is basically trash even when fighting dark monsters it crits about 9-10k per hit. Keep in mind that my DP hits more than that without the setup.
But the point is, why you are goind DEX for a filler rank 5 class that ALSO forces to pick ANOTHER filler at rank4? There are builds for int inquis that, still off meta, can do MUCH better for the party then that thing.
I have seen video of ktos players with
C2 Priest 3 Miko chap inqui
C3 priest pally miko pd inqui {there are still crazy ppl that pick pally 1 as a filler to double up the healing lol, and I still find the raimbow builds a bit disturbing eheh}
doing impressive damage in int builds and with much better utility. They are off meta builds for sure, but still much more effective then giving up INT for a punch in the face…
We got fencer guys, lets the right class do the right job.
You’re also picking dex for Inqui or have you forgotten that 3 out of 4 skills are physical. Pears and even wheel itself does a ton of damage. No point in picking inqui for an int build unless you want to purely PVP. You’re not going to do great damage with Inquistor skills on an INT build.
On my monk 2 my wheel does about 10k per hit and pears do 40k per hit.
never seen inguisitor do 1 shot killer with MM in TBL ?
Like I said. Only reason to take Inquisitor on an INT build is for pvp. In pve that 25k damage you can 1 shot noobs with is absolutely nothing. I’m a dex Inquisitor and I still 1 shot noobs with MM, but you wont 1 shot people actually built for pvp. I’m top 10 in Klai week after week and when you actually face people built for it you wont do much. Like most INT skills it doesnt even scale it just adds flat damage. So your 2k Matk is literally crap and wont help you with any INQUI skills at all.
u are rank 10 but sadly u are know nothing about ur own skill
beside 1 shot kill (mostly any archer ) MM can used to give doping damage to ur own skill (pve/pvp) specialy multi hit one like> heal-cure -zaibas- druid grass - PD burn and poison -monk doble punch and EB -breaking wheel from Inguisitor it self -magnus excorcise chaplain -multi hit from priest -chaplain
mostly are magic damage one
I don’t know anything or you can’t read as I specifically stated in one of my comments above how MM makes monk dots pretty good. Also, like the entire point of the whole argument is INT builds, Dex builds give the exact same debuff that an INT build does so I don’t see your point whatsoever. I have 2 Inquisitors at max level so i’m pretty sure I know my class.
Oh want some advice as well that I bet you didn’t know, but I do? That extra damage from MM can crit when added to physical damage skills. Tell me how your int skills are doing so much damage?
i dont have INT inguisitor but i know the stongest inguisitor is int build
the best combo calling HEALING BOMB in korea
MM -BLESING-HEAL and bomb full health crystal mine mission boss killed in 3 sec / what can ur physical damage can do the best physycal one need 1 minutes at least to kill the same boss
Easy. Pears + wheel 1 shots any mission bosses. You know that bonus you get from MM? It does more damage with physical skills like I said it can crit.
i see… soo u are drunk or something
or u can show me how u do it /or post ur eguipment screen shot here specialy the weapon one
I’d love to see these 50-66k non-crits. Sounds like exaggeration to me. I doubt even a full strength build would achieve that.
Yes, Paladin doesn’t stop you from getting Pears but it does stop you taking 3 other far more useful circles, all to buff a mediocre skill. For example, Oracle. If you can’t see how useful they are I don’t even want to bother arguing further.
As for the rest of this thread… All I see is “kTos this kToS that”. I forgot kToS players = supreme overlords of greatness and power and that whatever they do is automatically the best.
You wanna see a mission boss get blown up?
Here’s me doing it with my shitty non-kToS meta Monk1/Inquis build. Damn I wish I had conviction so much.
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