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Monk 3 really need inquisitor now?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

Hi, Now that Monk C3 do some really good damage, I wonder if Inquisitor is a must or its very optional now.

The fact is I already have a Plague Doctor, and on high levels its absurd how dependent of Healing Factor I became.
But if “No Inquisitor” means no cap damage, is not worth it. I wonder if take Plague Doctor on Rank 8 for survability purposes could make the experience be more enjoyable.

Or its just a matter of adquire good “GEARS”.

Or the only option is do what most part of people who knows that do too: go
C1> whatever > wahtever> whatever > Monk 2> Plague > Inq., something I dont like it, Give up Monk c3 dont seens to be worth it.

Just seeing some opinions.I believe only those who posses the Monk C3 now can really answer this question.

Oh, there is Skill Smite of INquisitor Burst double Punch? what the deal with this combo?

#2

inquisitor is only physical cleric at r8

not getting it = you are playing r7 class in r8 content

rank9 won’t have new physical cleric class

inquisitor c2 will be only physical cleric at r9

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#3

Monks double punch and one inch applies a debuff that increases strike damage, so god smash does get much stronger this way. And I didn’t understand what you meant about the combo. PD 1 is a good filler in Paladins C3 builds cause they are rank 4 so you won’t lose Inquisitor, however monk is rank 5.

#4

@wboccato you just explained what is the deal with this combo.

yep, I noticed.
PD bloodletting and Healing Factor make a char a war tank in PvE but will have much less damage. :frowning:

#5

There are two more cleric classes that we assume will be physical. Zealot and Lama.
Technically you dont need inq to do most of games quests. But if you want to ET or PvP as physical cleric, inq is your only option.

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#6

wont shepherd be phsysial? i mean its a pet class

#7

well, considering other summoner classes, probably going to scale with spr

#8

no its a “Pet” class lol. like flconer. uless falconers scale with spr then i guess im wrong

#9

bokor, scales with SPR already in the cleric tree.
all wizzards summons scale with SPR. it only makes sense, because now Bokor PD has only enough for 9 ranks, so Shepherd might be its logical rank 10
but that is again speculation

#10

What is a good pick for Monk C3 Inq at Ranks 3 and 4? I thought of getting C2Diev1Pala1, but I’m not sure about it. Anyone tested a lot of Monks that can give me good tips?

Priest C2 seems awkward without SPR. I’ve seen Monks giving really low Blessing damage. Any Pardoner has at least double that amount.

Thank you!

#11

Conversion is a minion type and scales of str only, and pets are an entirely different thing altogether.

@Entoma

  • Priest2: Res, revive and mass heal to keep you and the group alive.
  • Priest1/Diev1: Res + cd/slow from laima and utility on the side.
  • Cleric3/Priest1: More heal tiles, Guardian Saint and res.
  • Cleric3/Diev1: More heal tiles, Guadian saint + cd/slow from laima and sp/warp utility.

That’s about it.

Diev2 is a noob trap tbh.
Owls do ■■■■ dmg without diev3+miko.
World Tree is decent ofc, but laima lvl 5 already stops most enemies atm so it’s of limited benefit atm.

Paladin could have some pvp potential, as smite can kd players with the attribute.
But it doesn’t add that much to a monk build aside of that.

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#12

Thanks for the quick answers.

I feel like wasting a lot of points in Priest 2 without any SPR. Of course, Revive and Ress are really good, and I’ll also have my own Monstrance in low CD without scrolls, but the rest will be wasted. From my previous experience Mass Heal isn’t as reliable as Heal because of how the skill is deployed, especially with me being a melee DPS that will need to abandon DPS for decent positioning. That’s why I thought of either Cleric C3 or Pala C1 instead (Regeneration Aura hidden effect to double the heals; I still need to confirm if it still doubles, easy to check since I have a paladin). I’m not going to either ET or PvP with the monk, so Ress loses a lot of appeal for me too.

Both of them fall into the same Priest hating thing. I won’t be using Ress too much since no PvP or ET, so I’d be taking it basically for Monstrance that can be scrolled for bosses. Meh.

Now that is a second option that I considered together with Pala 1. It has theorical +50% healing power from Heal panels and Guardian Saint can help your heavy damaging Hahaman/Archer to do his job unscathed for a while. Plus Divine Might with 10 charges with so many quick skills (almost all of Monk skills scale with attack speed) sounds really good as well.

Yeah, I feel like Diev 2+ is kinda meh without an INT build, especially without Miko.

I’ll probably skip Smite or use it for random mob tossing in this build. The thing about Paladin is the Auras + Turn Undead. If the aura is still doubling the healing amount, it could be okish to get. But I may end up with Cleric 3 Diev 1 in the end.

#13

Already tested it, it scales off the flat added value of heal. As such it only scales wih spr/int atm due to the changes to heal.
It is off no use to monks atm.

And not that relevant, but turn undead also got nerfed. Most berserk elites seem outright immune to it, while dungeon mobs are either immune or have it lowered to a 1% ish chance.

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#14

atleast get diev1, other is your choice

20% damage vs plant monster is just too good

#15

I am
Cleric 3 > Krivis 1 > Monk 1 > Druid 1 > Plague Doctor 1 > Inquisitor

I have so much skills I dont even know what to use
Carnivory/Zaibas/Incineration Are my tools to AoE Attack on mobs.

Cure Lv 15 + Incineration + Double Punch + carnivory (some times)
if the target dont move, I’m generally the 1st or 2nd damage maker of the party.

I only remember to use heal when I see someone dying or Healing Factor ends. Healing Factor is really awesome, almost instantly regenerate your HP if you stop receive damage.

Today I think I would change, instead Druid, take something else. as Monk 2 for example. because
is toooo much skills.

#16

I was led to believe it was scaled with SPR.
I feel embarrassed.

@Entoma I am running Cleric3 diev1 monk3 inq as my main.

Used to be cleric2 diev2
diev 2 is not worth it anymore, and since my ET party has 2 priests already I did not need it. so there is that

#17

Don’t be, these rules IMC made are just too darn inconsistent and a lot of the bad info is at least partially their fault.
Spr does work for every other minion, and I think our gm’s even said somewhere that it should work on all minions.

The str scaling is due to an attribute anyway, and not due to some hidden mechanic.

But there is an unmentioned mechanic of Int also adding to the dmg of minions. (just not as much as spr does.) But that doesn’t for conversion either.

I have no idea if the stat part for conversion is a bug or intentionally designed that way…

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#18

How do you know that?Did you see the new classes for rank 9?
How about Lama…

#19

I recall some forum dweller saying that armor breaks only take away 10% def? is it true that armor breaks only take away 10% of the def now? 3 seconds of -10% is meh. can you even get off all god smashes in 3 seconds with the typical amount of dex? is it possible to get enough dex to cram in more strong attacks during that 3 seconds?

#20

it is -30% and it is 3 seconds,
I can land wheel ->hand knife -> 3x God Smash perfectly into that. it is not hard. I also usually have time to plug in another double punch or 2 in there

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