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Meltis cleric for ET

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

So, I would like to exp a cleric just for ET, since meltis is always in high demands and easily to fit then my SR in most parties, given how 90% of the clerics in my server (and I would say 51% of the player base xD) are Diev3/miko/pd2 I gived up a long time ago on my own PD2, but I’m missing clerics kinda heavily

The meta build is C2/krivis3/miko/priest/tao

Off but still kinda common is C1/krivis3/diev3/tao (which has the prop to go with priest3/Miko/PD2 variations with easy and has self sustain even in random set up).

In ET contest I don’t mind too much losing C2 since I hope that everybody is gonna have some lvl 10 heal scrolls (I will, anyway) and given the massive immunities I don’t think losing 1 safety zone with attribute is gonna be game changing.

So I was thinking some variations:

a) I do like paladin 1 for nullify attribute on resist elements (that you are gonna keep up 24/7 with meltis) and for the restoration buff to any given incoming heal

b) I do like priest 2 since you gain access to revive, which is another immunity that sinergy with meltis (if you pop the death trigger your immunity inside meltis will run forever instead of X seconds), plus mass heal is kinda decent no matter what and 10/10 Aspersion can be added in rotation for emergency if people die and got ressed.

Do you think

C1/P2/Krivis3/X/Tao

can be a decent build?

If so, what would you pick at rank 7?

A) Paladin for the nullify attribute + restoration

B) Priest 3 with around 200ish spirit for capped zalciai and stone skin (even if it has a bad sinergy with meltis channeling)

C) Miko couz you can’t give up on such a strong circle

D) Just ignore everything and go Diev3/krivis3/tao and be welcomed in any party :stuck_out_tongue:

I would like to go C1/krivis3/priest2/paladin/tao for an heavy focussed meltis character, but I would like to know experienced supporter (or most Diev3/miko/PD2) would like to team with this char or not.

On a side note on the build: I don’t like divine stigma, especially end game the bonus is not worth the trouble since it is so situational, aukuras at least buff your Animus if you fast cast it and rewear it after a loading screen. My only question is how much Daino lvl is recommended for ET.

Thx for the help :wink:

#2

I was fond of priest 2 before, thinking that it would have a drastic improvement from c1. I’d suggest pick only priest 1 if you won’t invest 3 circle on priest, it would be good if your team can coordinate with your mass heal and you’d max spr for blessing damage but I doubt you would since the build is catered for krivis. Take cleric 2, it’s a standard build which has higher heal tiles and fade to de-aggro mobs on et, it’s a trick to fade then melstis to bypass some levels in et.

#3

Imo, Priest is a C1 or C3 class, basically you either get it just to ress or become a dedicated C3 priest with SPR build (if u want a more supportive Cleric for Stone Skin and such).

I’m following the same path you suggested:

Cleric C2 > Krivis C3 > Miko > Priest > Taoist

Is the best path if you want to do ET with that char, if you want you can even switch Priest for Oracle for Counter Spell or Kabbalist for infinite SP (which is pretty good since you’ve two SP draining skills, Melstis and Kagura).

As for Krivis skill distribution, you can either:

Aukuras lvl 3
Zalciai lvl 3
Zaibas lvl 15
Divine Stigma lvl 10
Melstis lvl 5
Daino lvl 9

Or reduce Divine Stigma lvls and get Daino lvl 15 and add leftovers to Divine Stigma (or skip it all together and use those for Aukuras), really is up to personal preference, but Daino lvl 9 should be enough for now.

I also don’t think only 1 rank of Paladin is worth it, since imo it’s a class you either go to C3 with it or skip it all together, because it begins to shine at C3, even more after you get Inquisitor at R8, however that follows a DEX build and is more oriented to dealing dmg while providing decent support.

#4

Paladin 1 has always been a filler that fascinated me.

The very 1st team to clean ET in ktos used C2K3Paladin1PD1 at R7, and paladin was there only for nullity attribute and restoration.

Even then, now that we got miko, it kinda fail in comparison :stuck_out_tongue:

Priest 2 idea was only for resurrection immunity buff into meltis, but does looks kinda useless and super hard to set up (if you are channeling meltis nobody should die, honestly)

What I don’t love of cleric 2 is that you can basically scroll anything with a cleric 2 pardoner 2, which is expensive but gives you a free filler if you want to take this route. I don’t remember if Fade atm is craftable as a scroll, but if so with 2x pardoners (1st pardo with lvl 10 simony, 2nd with lvl 1 simony) you can cover most of your needings:

lvl 10 heal scrolls
lvl 1 & 10 cure scrolls
lvl 5 divine might

If you can craft fade lvl 1 you even get meltis + fade combo (once again, not sure if fade is craftable, would be nice if somebody can confirm or deny).

But In the end is quite a bit of trouble for just overwrite cleric 2 with paladin1 for restoration and nullify attribute on resist elements, even if, on the other hand, the diev3/krivis3/tao variant require basically the same crafting efforts to be full efficient.

So, basically, C1 variants require a bunch of pre crafting involved, while C2 variants are self sufficient and good to go.

This kinda leave me with:

C1/krivis3/Paladin/miko/priest/tao

C1/krivis3/diev3/tao

both require a C2/pardoner 2 AND a C2/pardoner 1 to cover all the scrolls needing

or the meta C2/krivis3/miko/priest/tao

#5

Unless there another diev 3 in your ET group you might really whant it.
Ausrine will protect your team from death but mostly your Meltis chaneling.
As you can’t do anything other than … Keeping 1 button press for all the duration for everyone to keep their Chapp/Glass mole card/ausrine/other kind of buff up. You really need something to protect you from behing interupt.

You can also go miko and do a quick Owl/clap setup before ausrine melti maybe or cleric 2 to be sure to have divine might (For the 5 extra second maybe but I think if done right you can probably just keep it up with pass from a chrono.)

otherwise there taoist for the quick StormCall / Zaibas combo not that much usefull in ET still.

#6

I play the D option. Krivis diev tao is the Most usefull sup/dps build. Also on every stage of kills mobs u can spam meltis and keep all the stage up (with crono is easy) the other cleric Must be a c2-3 priest 3 miko inqui. To increase damage heal and resurrect party members

#7

There’s a huge issue with a all in one package.
Once you Start meltis you are unable to move.

It’s best to split up to 2 cleric being 1 DPS, Diev variant and 1 Krivis Variant.

This is due to the fact that the Diev variant still can crave SP regen + CDR statue + owls and even better with Miko to dance + silence stick.

Where as you just focus your job on Daino > meltis loop.

There are times where people fail due to all in one package getting knock back out of safely by accident and your austrine go haywire and unable to refresh it on time for second meltis.

Squeezing everything in one have it’s extreme issues. Please be reminded.

#8

But tis is the best stuff about krivis diev. In a rotation on ET u come on YOUR position put the silence tree.and. Every other statue them u meltis and with a nice build + a lvl 15 sp pot u do all the meltis well . Also u can leave the owls and some papers flying to deal some damage. Thats inprove the utiliti of the meltis dead time

Unlike if u have krivis.miko inqui.if some reiter want to burst with the inqui weel. U cant make kaguya dance and meltis. At the same time so u Will lose a loot of damage.

#9

That’s why you separate them out.

Once u leave those statue crafted you can’t refresh it unless you have another Miko around to help you to clap. Especially on meltis.

Which most of the case you won’t want to find a additional one Lol.

I have seen stuff like GBB lasted way long with Mana drain that screw up stuff so bad we failed :hugging: . It gets worse as you go higher.

Putting too much eggs in one basket is the key issue here.

#10

So as u say put priest with krivis also Wanda be a problem. Of some díe because they dónt take the ausrine or some lilke that u can cut the meltis to revive only 1 player or heal. So u need put cleric 2 priest 3 and Miko. So where is the place to diev 3 and inqui?

If the only problem for a krivis 3 diev 3 tao is the mana pool. With a good set without spr and items to reduce your mana(like 5Hammer with raw blues gem) only need get almost 130 mana reg/sec and allways Will be full of mana. Isnt a big deal

#11

you don’t really need priest 3 with that you can run diev 3 Miko + inqui + krivis + whatever.

Or a combination of diev 3 Miko PD 2 + krivis priest tao.
If you want a more sick combi that ignores any mistakes you can just

Diev 3 Miko Oracle iNq + krivis + pardoner + miko + tao.

You can cover the lack of mdef , aoe magic , statue zone + invulnerability the only issue is Pdef but that can be secure by gear.

So even without austrine people will not die esp your DPS.

In the end

You will always need at least 2 cleric. Why not spread the load? putting every one and pressure on one.
Meaning that your DPS must be the one zoning and controling the aggro off you. or at least not stay too near you esp with knockback units. Barrier is rubbish. It doesn’t keep every one off. Esp range knockbacks.

If any case mana burn appears like f20 and your DPS is sleeping you are a goner and likely to fail that stage once you get hit off the tempo.

Where as when you spread your roles.
You can crave silence stick or do something else where the sole guy focus on Meltis or do something else while waiting for meltis to be back up.

Priest is normally only for issue when you need ress at stages when your party make a major mistake.

Or else you will never need it. Also due to backmasking bugged.

Mana pool isn’t a issue as long as they dun have SPR. Keista + MP pots stack and theres prem 50% if they really want to whale. 300k per usage.

#12

You can craft heal scrolls??? Is there a new update I missed?

#13

you can’t. https://tos.neet.tv/skills?simony=1&f=1

#14

Why not keep them joint.
No one say that u need allways 2 cleric in a party. For a party focus on the meltis combo u need 2 cleric. But the more usefull class for every party are determinante by the floor mechanics

Priest 2-3 are the Most usefull or all clases. U can go to solmiki floors with 1 cleric But only if he has priest.
Help to heal and revive players and help to kill the eggs or cristals on the floors when u need múlti hit to destroye stuff faster.

Whatever. Split the krivis and diev is an option But keepthem joint also work and for me is better because i dónt need cordinate my meltis with other CDs.

#15

Once you start meltis you would want to keep on.
So there is NO STOPPING.
Until your party clear the objective. INBETWEEN you can’t do ANYTHING Else. If your members are knock out of range or if Austrine run out due to issue.

You can’t craft again inbetween your meltis because if you cancel it goes into CD esp when pass is on CD. :upside_down:

Where as if you have a seperate Diev. He can still ensure Austrine to be refresh, statue to be kept up. if clap is not applied.

Joint is a Option but it sucks if there are issues.

All you need is 1 misplay and your whole party is fked.
That’s what i am trying to point out.

If you still don’t understand what i am trying to imply then so be it lol.

You still don’t get all the eggs in one basket meaning?rofl

Mind you that A diev miko pd variant or a Diev + X + inquistor variant is strong enough by itself to cap dps/ get objective destruction as strong as most of the DOT dps these day.

Priest3 is technically half useless class unless you are running stone skin combi with sage. Priest 1 is just for safety or security if shiet happens for ress.

Which most of the case won’t happen as long as the meltis + austrine combo is forever there O_O.

#16

Just get 2,5-4,5k def/mdef and there’s no need for Ausrine and Melstis.

Also, don’t rely on scrolls, as they are expensive af to create currently (500 silver + 1 parchment per skillevel of the crafted skill). Afaik, the only viable scrolls currently are Barrier, Aukuras and Restoration…

#17

2.5k is only for lolo

you need 5.5k PDef + mdef for Solmiki.

Those who is not running a shield with nuaelee cards will not be able to achieve magic def of 5.5k. They are normally your AOE DPS aka Doppel, SR etc.

So there is the high chance they will still die to magic aoe dmg from boss etc.

This will also mean you need to dump at least tons of shard to get into all armor. at least stage 8/9 lolos sets.

#18

If your party dónt know how to take the ausrine yet. They deserve to díe.
I mean. There is a fkng addon to make it easy.
is your party problems dónt know how inprove the krivis diev mechanic. But if u cant get the combo with 1 cleric u can put priest 3 on the other Just to inprove the heal and the revive buff time. I know tis build works and who usefull is a priest so what is the problem? I never Blame your meta build… I you dónt like priest isnt my problem and isnt the point in tis tread

#19

And when you meltis and their austrine expire who is gonna provide it as they are knock back out of the arena due to the fact MELTIS HAS A RANGE and it isn’t screen wide.

There no need to improve heal if there is no damage taken.
This is not about meta build nor liking priest anot.

This is call Putting ALL EGGS in a single basket.

You overload yourself. You drop the basket every one falls and crack… Simple as that.
You spread out the eggs in the basket one side drop. The other still lives to backup your ISSUES.

It’s call Playing safe. What you are doing is HEAVY LOADING your road to success on a SOLE Player/Character. It will eventually Slip and fall or shiet will happen and you scew that one point up.
It’s beyond salvageable. Which will lead to fail runs.

Simple as that. Which is more prone to errors. Infact is your all in one build. Is what i am implying.

This was the point. If you can’t get it you should back off and go chill your head and reread.

Remember YOUR job is to Keep UP MELTIS and During that process if you get interrup and your AUSTRINE does expire where as a DEAD DPS has no dps. Good luck.

Also austrine has limited charges. Revive at times isn’t saving shiet yes true it save people at times. When you get knock back and flinch to the point by mob zone. Nothing is saving that.

#20

That’s why I like

C1/Krivis3/paladin1/miko1/priest1/tao

You add 2 good buffs to your meltis (restoration for the hidden sinergy with carpet and nullify attribute of resist elements), while taking the safe priest 1 for res when needed and miko is just a massive DPS // utility filler boost.

I think I will go this route, even if scrolling level 10 heals // cure and lvl 5 divine might will be expensive, this char will sit in my team lounge only for dailies and party play.

For phisical def / magic res I was thinking to go:

lolo cloth gloves
elkosh top // bottom (enchant up to +10)
wind runner with blue gem

315 purple rod + shield

Yet to decide jewels, especially animus vs max peta and rings (I don’t have access to dhrag bracelet, so I think rhevisian vs glass bracelet vs zachariel bangle if buffed at least at +10)

My big question, once again:

can somebody confirm // deny FADE is craftable with pardoner?