What’s the current state of Magic Build Clerics? If I went Cleric 2 Krivis 3 on my way to Taoist, for example. Does it provide for relatively painless PvE? How useful would I be in Dungeons? How are they in PvP?
What is the stat point distribution? I know I would have mostly INT, but would I invest anything into CON, DEX or SPR?
Lastly, how useful is PD circle 1 if I’d already have an ability that removes status ailments from allies?
In PvE and dungeons they should be fine. Itll be a bit rough at the start but thats only because zaibas will be your only air attacking spell and its on a 2 overheat on 30 seconds of cooldown. Other than that, youll have heal bombs and cure pad to take care of other low hp monsters that dont fly. As for taoist, they can get a little pricey but they still do a good job in pve. As for pvp, its hard to land your zaibas on anyone that is paying attention. That said, depending on your other 2 circles, you could either be great at pvp or mediocre. Oracle is generally top tier in terms of 1 circle of pvp viability.
For stat distribution, id suggest about 70-100 con and the rest dumped into int. Spr will only increase your mana pool and your resist chance in pvp. Not really that useful for your build. Sure it will affect zalciai a bit but not enough to make much of a difference for how much int will benefit you.
PD circle 1 would help you majorly in the case of flying monsters and sustained boss dps. The debuffing of it is not really bad but in pve, not much debuffs you in the first place. In pvp, you rarely have enough time to cast it (except in sitiuations where your bloodletting is down or the ally was out of range when you casted it). Its situational. One circle of PD would give you incinerate, healing factor and bloodletting / beak mask, which would increase your support, damage and debuff imunity. All round a solid circle choice.
So if I don’t invest anything into SPR, how would I cope with increasing mana costs on abilities? I’d assume I’d run out very quickly once reaching higher levels.
As for Oracle c1 or PD c1, I’m unsure which I should take. I believe it’s counter spell and Prophecy that make Oracle a good pvp choice, but PD is also a good choice for pvp, correct?
Lv10 Condensed SP Potion, SPR is only useful for certain class like priest since they have skill that scale well with it.
SPR cant really help you much tbh, high SPR just mean you have a larger SP poll and higher sp regen (out of combat only), if you spam skill a lot it’s still gonna drain down fast and you’ll still need sp potion, unless you plan to sit at bonfire before every fight.
As far as I know both are good choice for pvp, you can actually have them both cause oracle is r6 and PD is r7. But as the above had mention, PD is a solid class, beside it’s pvp functionality it will also provide you some additional damage on pve, oracle on the other hand benefit more in pvp, but it’s utility in pve is not bad as well, you can use it to farm some rare item.
Sorry, but WTF are you talking about here? SP regen is 1 tick / 20 sec standing, and 1 tick / 10 sec in sit mode. Cat SP buff halven that to 10 sec / 5 sec respectively (Zemyna also reduce the tick interval)… You can abuse it by being active while sitting every 10 sec (you can sit at the 11th/12th/13th/so on sec and still have the SP regen tick). Or every 5 sec with the cat buff…
I have a lv 210 SPR cleric build , I never have my SP drained while spamming stuff continuously. So I never need to use SP pot either… This is WITHOUT using the regen trick.
For Int build, SP is still very manageable… Esp with the regen trick i mentioned earlier. A lil’ bit tedious, but if you hate doing it, Lv 10 SP pot is quite cheap and it’s not like you have to drink it like an alcoholic (eg. sorcerers)
But yeah, he’s right in that SPR build is only if you’re planning to take skills that scales from it, most notably Stone Skin, pardoner’s Magic Defense, Paladin’s Barrier, etc… Don’t take SPR for the SP regen
I apologies for getting my fact wrong, I mainly play as a sorc so I might had not pay a close attention to how often my sp regen tick, I never notice that my SP regen tick when I’m attacking as well, even when my summon is off.
However I do think that is a bit rude for you to correct me in this way.
Sorc’s mp while the summon boss is out doesnt regen. That might be why you havent noticed it.
For a sorc, the less sp the better so you can maximize the efficiency of your potions since sorc’s major summon drains a % at a time.
For clerics, you wouldnt hurt yourself investing some spirit but honestly, unless you’re a spr scaling class (priest), theres no real reason to get it when potions exist.
Yes, i’m quite frustrated by people spreading misinformation…And i’m sorry for the rudeness. In fact, i took an SPR build for my first char due to this very “out of combat” advice i read before, and only to be disappointed by how excessive the SP regen is… so, i gotta take all the SPR scalling class to salvage this build. Now it’s c2 priest2 pal3, and have to take priest3 for rank8. Still unhappy due to how “unoptimal” it feels, having your SP always full.
I’ll pay a closer attention next time I play, as far I can recall, even when my summon is off, as long as i’m AAing a target, the sp regen also didn’t tick for me, but then again, I mostly use SP potion, so I may be wrong there.
@CadmusBeoulv I see, now I understand why your so frustrated, I’ll cross out that section on my original post so that other’s wont get misinform.
(Not about the spr debate here but more for a optional int cleric build)
You can also go for a debuff (Plague doctor inceneration build) It does quite alot of damage and -I Think- the most common one is a cleric2>bokor3>Pardonner>PD2. Quite good for what i saw but not sure how good it is before you actualy reach rank 8.
Why is Taoist “pricey”?
iirc cost 500 silver per Card, and some abilities use more than one.
Is Pardoner a good choice to fund those costs? What kind of skill scrolls would I have to sell?
I’m also wondering how Pardoner would affect my build in relation to my other options. You see, I was thinking about something along the lines of:
Cleric2 --> Krivis3 --> Miko --> ??? --> Taoist
I want to support, but at the same time I like doing some damage as well, and being able to level by myself without having massive issues. PvP is also something I want to do well in.
If anyone has thoughts on my build path, let me know. I also have yet to figure out what skills I’m putting my points into.
To expand on what scare said. Every skill uses at least 3 cards which cost 500 each. It gets pricey after a while
That was changed.
Storm Calling 3 -> 2
Dark Sight 3 -> 2
Three Disasters 3 -> 2
Energy Wave 5 -> 3
Still, 1 k for all skills except for the 1.5k is rough on the wallet after a while. Trust me, i played pardoner 3. You dont notice it until you’re broke
Just a head up. If u planning on soloing, Krivis zaibas is bad at map lvl 120+ cause most mobs got high hp and if u do encounter lizardmen which are lightning element, u do peanut dmg. I would suggest u take cleric 2 > Krivis > Sadhu 2 for possesion (best aoe + cc in cleric arsenal) > Krivis 3 > Taoist. If and if u are soloing and have no friend to leech u to end lvl. 
Why would you ever wish sadhu upon anyone? Thats some cruel sense of humour you have there
No really. It a really awesome class. Hue
The pain mostly stems from only having Zaibas as your sole source of “anti-flying” DPS. This is the case if you went C2-K3 like I did with my to be Taoist. This shouldn’t be an issue once R8 comes out, “Silver” would be your next problem 