totally, its a discussion section… everyone is allowed to come here…
i will try to lern em some cool stuffs 
good day mate.
im just giving my view… and not just saying "im all fine in here no reset “point”
Whoa, same guys are still arguing?
Then buy place and play other classes. Some classes are a pain to level up since level 160, it would be too easy to take a easy level up build to change at the end, not good
i have never understood where is the problem with taking an easy level up build and changing it at the end, seriously, wheeeereeee??
end game is all about grinding… and no, theres any classe in here thats is a pain to lvlup, unless u are a guy who join a pt and stand afk
dude, its like teaching a dog how to bark… better wait a final decision from imc.
Repast, i think i did a interesting view,
try to show me ur point, make me a view trying to say how bad is to have a reset… not simple come in here and reject some cool ideas 
Theres 2 kinda of Noobs in this game…
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Those who are lvling a Meta build and know they will be much more useful than a random build.
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Those who still have no idea how important is to have a Meta build in this game.
The problem in investing in a No Meta build:
- Risking to be the guy who no ones invite for anything
- Avoiding some areas like PvP, Pve (Boss), (areas Grinding i mean AoE Dmg) because will be a point in the game they will realize the build they did invested, doesn’t work in most situation.
- simple fact that what they did, doesn’t correspond as they wishes. (some people maybe heavy be dissapointed with they choises).
- will be a time in the game they will get tired of creating new characters, and then will give up because they didn’t accomplished any results.
The problem in investing in a Meta build.
- Any, u can go ahead, it works in most situation… and its a good start.
- feels secured in they choises,IMC will not reduced the damages of the classes who are supposed to damage < same for the Tank who is supposed to tank alot, and for the healer who is suppsoed to heal the most
- not able to make crazy builds like a Full STR Tank < funny af or Max STR Wizard XD (for me this should be the coolest part of the game) thing everyone could profit.
my view:
Well having Meta Builds is cool of course, (but its not good for the game)
but still, it doesn’t means that it works in most situation as i said, its just a way to secure a confortable end game.
Having resets stuffs, people should try as many builds as they wish, and not lose they progress in the game
Hitting 280 maybe easy, but its not hitting lvl 280 with a charcater but with a build
also may i say that 280 is just the beginner? as the rank 7 
Not having resets, theres a risk of investiment in the game, and players will get tired in a point, because the only survival 280 will be these who invested in a solid build
Its much more fun if everyone could have the 4 basic classes and try rise em to max lvl, not taking care of a single build choise, than be forced to make solids decision in the game, to avoid the risky of trying new stuffs.
thats all im trying to say in here…
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if ToS doesnt have any forum and whatsoever. things wouldn’t be this annoying, since the only preferences we will get are from ingame itself.
and people would probably just deal with the mess ups themselves and try to make up with it in some other way just like how players used to do it before instead of crying over in forums because the build they copied somewhere else got nerfed.
Most people know they have to roll meta. Documentation is terrible and there are some ppl that like to experiment.
I want to present one of the many reasons why the current form is bad: Even right now not everything is known.
I frequented the cleric forum a lot - I didn’t do deep searches on every possible cleric combination but I searched around and the general consensus was that e.g. oracle is a waste.
Now little by little as more people randomly pick up oracle by e.g. wasting a character like me (c1-p3-pard2-oracle) to check it out for myself I found out that oracle isn’t bad, but since it is a pardoner lvling is a bit lackluster.
The consensus on Counter Spell is that it is useless etc, but slowly I am hearing that it actually negates magic attacks and not just destroys magic circles - which makes it one of the best def. spells in the game since literally everyone is weak to pure magic attacks.
Now I don’t know how the misconception could happen - how people thought it wouldn’t do anything against magic. The only idea I have is that most skills look like magic, but are blockable and therefor arent magic.
Sufficent to say that people that rolled FS and went meta will not have oracle and have to reroll completely. That leveling up to 280 fun is a myth. It is fun during mid-build when your character slowly starts to be pieced together - the artificially slowed end is a chore and nothing else.
If you don’t like the high risk management aspects of planning/designing/leveling a character, I can understand that.
But having a circle reset would make ToS like gambling with nothing on the line. No risk. Dull.
I vote for no circle reset.
Let’s say you make an original build that succeeds in the game. But because your build wasn’t STR heavy, it took much longer to level up.
Now someone with high STR who had a much easier time leveling copies your build in the blink of an eye.
No one would be special. You’re character won’t mean anything. The game will get dull because anyone can be anything whenever they want. If you don’t have to work for something, they is very little accomplishment felt.
as said, theres any cookie for these who are trying to accomplish something with builds.
also any difficult in lvling any classe in here (u will understand me when u reach the lvl for grinds)
much more easy if u can toss tomes that will make ur lvling easier
u as many other just confirmed what i think… “feels special” by lvling different build…
and some others here also say no… knowing they will be much more stronger than these people.
this is a vicious circle… anyway, me, i will make solids builds of course, and secure my end game, this is the actual game we are playing…
in a way we already have resets stuffs,
resets attributes
resets skills
theres any reason to no have a reset circle…
unfortunally its not a character but a build.
i cant call it a character if i cant work deeper on it,
we have to make a single decision for the rest of ur game.
and yes being a single build means anything for me neither… agreed.
wtf? whats the point in having 80 classes if u can only handle a single one?
these accomplishment are left if u make another characters
i did already reached the cap lvl 280, now im working in another build.
take in mind, most people here not even reached the rank 7 yet
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- being a meta means many things
best build for pvp
best build for pve (100% cube profit)
best support build (demanded in everything)
best tank build (over 70k hp easy never die)
not being any of em, or not foccusing in any of em, proves the player, doesn’t really care about his character…
builds for em… have any impact in they gameplay…
now having resets stuffs, these focus will be the same (people are already foccusing in the meta build anyway)
but these will be less rerolls in the game forcing people to lvlup
and having much more people reaching the level cap 280.
Fine. But my specialty is bridges not space shuttles lol. My bad on a slow reply went fishing for the the weekend.