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Looking for advice! (druid or pally? currently cleric2 krivis2)

Looking for some knowledgeable advice for a decent hybrid dps/support build.

Currently cleric2 krivis2 going int/con and wondering if it would be better to go pally3 or krivis3 druid 2 next.

Is smite decent damage without str? Is carnivory too clunky?

thanks

I’ve heard that Smite is underwhelming on party matchmaking because it is a single target attack so it wont make much difference when there’s a considerable number of mobs, but it is great at solo play. You may still want to take Paladin though because it may start to become valuable in Earth Tower since Pardoner will be getting a re-work, and that means no more Barrier Scrolls.

Smite is indeed decent damage without STR. In fact, it scales pretty badly off of STR. STR Pally builds work because they capitalize on STR synergy with Diev1/Monk1, if someone were to go STR for Pally alone they’d usually end up pretty disappointed.

The skill deals three hits with Conviction (pally3) it seems, however it’s bugged atm, so that only the first hit receives bonus damage from attribute etc. For this reason, Paladin falls behind in terms of DPS, if compared to nearly every other Cleric branch with DPS options… it’s still viable, but will fall behind. And two of its most important support options, Restoration (due to a huge hidden buff it gives to Heal/Mass Heal) and Barrier (mostly for Earth Tower), can be made into a scroll by the class Pardoner for anyone to use. So the class does not see much value atm…

You can still go for Paladin and be viable, and you should do whatever you find most fun, but be aware the class currently has many problems.

On the other hand, Druid1/2 is good DPS, Carnivory is really good. But Krivis3 will not add much to your build unless you’re looking for a Melstis-specific build. You might consider something like Plague Doctor for rank 7 instead, especially if you put at least 1 point in Deprotected Zone and Zalciai. (You only need skills that count as a debuff for Incinerate, it doesn’t matter how strong or weak the debuff is.)


@xEarlx IMC mentioned the rework back in November 2015 though, and up to now they haven't said anything else about it. Not even a word. :confused:

I assume revamps for both Pardoner and Paladin will eventually come, especially Pardoner since IMC really seemed to show their concern, right now the company can barely get their own game to work though! I expect the lag and fps issues to be higher priority, and we have no idea when those will be fixed, either.

As your doing the krivis route; I’d assume you’r an int build. If so, I’d recommend you not go the paladin3 route as you wont be maximizing smite which you’ll be force to take of around 15 skill points.

Hence, a route of paladin1 or druid2 is ok. However, as you’re planning a hybrid dps/support; dont you think a diev3 would be better for you? If not, what are you intending by going the druid/paladin route? roleplaying?.

Clarifying these things early on would help better plan your build and select the most suitable.

~~Dragonfang [Paladin, Klaipeda]

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Hence, a route of paladin1 or druid2 is ok. However, as you’re planning a hybrid dps/support; dont you think a diev3 would be better for you?
[/quote]I was thinking the same thing.

However, Krivis2 is significantly better at mobbing and farming than Diev3, so it’s not like that build is completely bad. Diev3 would be better support and far better at bossing/PvP/GvG… but Cleric2 is enough to support by itself in PvM, there’s always the option of rank7 PD for more support if needed, and PvP is currently ridiculous anyway.

I would recommend against Pally1 at this point. Restoration and Turn Undead can both be sold as Pardoner scrolls, and Smite lv5 will only help with leveling, quickly falling off at later levels. Either way, Druid would be faster leveling than Pally (and better dmg both earlygame and especially endgame), if fast leveling is what the OP wants.

yeah the first thing I noticed on this game is how ridiculous the buff scrolls are (what were they thinking??), they should just be removed imo…

thanks for all the replies

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As a lvl 230 full str paladin (made it into pardoner and just left it), your damage is going to be sht. Barrier can sometimes help but can also easily become a nuisance (it also doesn’t work on every mob for some reason).

men is easy cleric 2- krivis 3- druid 1- druid 2 or plague doctor 1

the people say all the time diev, diev,diev, but krivis is a good option too, more offensive than diev and more versatile in dps terms.

and other build i was thinking is cleric 2. krivis 2- priest 2 -kaballist.

Yeah I’m cleric 2 krivis 3 atm, going to do the druid 2 route.

Not sure how much Int/Con to get. I read you can get a lot of Con and just use Animus?

[quote=“vrypwrful, post:9, topic:296539, full:true”]
Yeah I’m cleric 2 krivis 3 atm, going to do the druid 2 route.

Not sure how much Int/Con to get. I read you can get a lot of Con and just use Animus?
[/quote]Why Krivis3 tho, you planning on doing Earth Tower? :confused:

But you don’t really need a lot of CON… not much benefit from over 100 CON if it’s PvM, unless you’re a dedicated tank (which isn’t your case). Animus is a thing but won’t give you nearly as much dmg as you’d have in an INT-focused build.

higher zaibas, just doing w/e not taking it too serious lol

max zaibas is little more damage than diev, but diev have better suport skills, its a good alternative build and very used in ktos,

@vrypwrful ehh, alright I guess o.o. Was just pointing it out.

It’s probably the best Cleric has to offer in terms of PvM aoe, either way, so it’s not like it’s bad… and because you’re a Cleric (with INT build I assume), you’ll have good sustain to solo dungeons if you want.

One good hint is going for animus necklace to boost your magical damage, might as well since you probably have aukuras at a pretty high level. But idk its prices.

@ariel.herrera25 yes, but if you’re not going to use Melstis, the only thing you get from C3 is higher Zaibas and aukuras (assuming INT build). So in the end it is more a build for convenience, for aoe, or for Melstis.

Level 210ish druid here. This class is fun indeed. However If I have a class reset potion. I would go priest 1 instead of druid. Nevertheless I am having fun.

why is that? and why priest 1?