Tree of Savior Forum

List of addons (need GMs approval)

General Discussion
#6

To allow an addon IMC would have to go through it’s code to check what’s it really doing.

It’s easy to say “hey my addon only does this and that”. But in reality it can be doing something else malicious…

They refrain from giving an exact list because they’re not really going to check the code on them one by one. It’s easier to say “if it exploits gameplay, it’s not allowed”.

If they’re really only doing the things the author stated, and those things are non harmful to gameplay (according to common sense), then they are allowed.

That’s probably the reason IMC won’t give a clear statement and you have to take in the addon author’s word, using it at your own risk.

#7

So this basically means:

Not allowed

  1. no bot programs of any kind
  2. no access npc’s like markets from places that you normal can’t access them from which gives you a huge advantage over others by scouting prices way more easier.

This doesn’t mean:

Allowed

  1. exp viewers
  2. map viewers
  3. kill count viewers.
  4. silver viewers

Or any other kind of visual information that gets projected.

So it’s safe to say:

people that get banned either used:

  1. market mod
  2. bot programs.
  3. screwed valve over with charge backs or this company and get banned.

The end.

Don’t want to get destroyed, from now on record all your gameplay so you have proof of not cheating.

#8

It’s true. I mean these add-ons are said to do one thing but most people aren’t going to have the technical skills or even the time (I really don’t want to go and investigate and break down each add-on before I use them) to go make sure the add-ons are ONLY doing what they say they’re doing.

So using add-ons is simply a risk we are taking since IMC won’t ‘officially’ support any of them.

However, add-ons have become an essential tool to a vast majority of the players at this point and it could have serious ramifications on the success of this game if an add-on was released that did certain against-the-rules things in the background that people didn’t know about. And it lead to a major ban of a lot of players who were unaware that they were even doing anything wrong.

We all know the risks, it’s true, but there are too many people using these add-ons at this point to use that as an excuse. IMC should just disallow all add-ons if they are unable to manually approve them.

#9

You forgot to tag, OP.

@STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Ines @GM_Francis @GM_Sebastian

#10

-Auto pot is on the blacklist.
All AFK summoner disappeared. Anyone see one pls tell me. Need conferm!

#11

auto pot is pretty much a bot program so yea no suprised

#12

You said it yourself:

IMC doesn’t want to prohibit all addons because they know players are using them a lot. There would be a lot of complaint if they did.

But they can’t also go through them all manually because of the efforts it would take.

They can probably inform us some that are NOT allowed, but not the ones that ARE allowed.

Maybe in the future they can dedicate a staff to provide addon support (and judge them), but what’s in the future is in the future.

#13

So right now the community has become dependent on add-ons that may or may not get them banned.

Well I guess I’m alone in seeing why this is a problem so I’m not going to spend my time writing a debate for it.

#14

I’m not denying your point. I also think many of the features some addons provide should already exist in game by default (like the collections manager).

I’m just saying IMC probably doesn’t have enough man power to support both the game in it’s current state and addons provided by others.

#15

I may as well make a confession. I use 4 of Excrulon’s add-ons. His EXP Viewer is very convenient because sometimes those little yellow and green bars disappear and seeing numbers motivate me more. The Card Calculator (although I heard it was sometimes inaccurate) also helped. Monster Tracker too. I think the Add-on Manager counts as an add-on of its own. While I have not been banned, it causes me anxiety due to the gray area that exists, and I do not want to take anymore chances.

@FlanFlan Have you used any of the add-ons? You seem to be more knowledgeable about this stuff.

#16

There is no mmorpgs I know that have done that because addons can be numerous and worse changed. No dev can control what the community produce and I don’t want IMC to put money to hire specialy someone who will analyze the code of each addons.

Because that’s what you guys don’t undersand. CwxAnywhere was spotted because the addon dev made a mistake to give a description of the addon and not because someone has gone analysing its code.

I understand that you’re worried but you should not fall into paranoïa.

Edit: I recommand to no use any addon name “Cw” for now to be safe.

#17

I haven’t looked at the source code for the game so to be honest, I can’t really understand everything these LUA scripts are doing for these add-ons. I could find out how to get at the source code and I could understand it if I was looking at it but…

Although I have been tempted to make an add-on for this game but after I watched the community take a crap all over the current add-on devs, I’m not going to be making add-ons for this game.

And getting at the source code, researching it and applying it to lua scripts would take a long time, right now I’m working on programming a project that I use my time on when I’m not playing ToS. So shrug

#18

literally, they can alter the client using add-ons, so why bother exclude some?

just take em all out.

#19

betterquest is the most useful add on <3 ban them all except this <<<

#20

I have
Mapfog
expviewer
monsterframes
monstertracker

IM SAFEEEEEE???

#21

There are no reports of accounts being banned for using these addons. Looks like you’re using CWrevivedeadtopic too.

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#22

Silver drop … would be nice … so you know how much silver monster give you also …
Jolly flag … ( so you know if its probably trolling you )

#23

They should make this legal add ons …

  • Better Quest
  • Enhanced Collection
  • Fog Map Viewer
  • Item Drops <- Must have for those drops that disappears
  • Monster Tracker
#24

Are you retarded? They said officially, to put it short: ‘If we find any addons abusing, we will give a warning about it and then ban those who continue using them’.

#25

IMC need to thank god for the people working on the addons…This should be the bare minimum stuff TO BE IN THE GAME! a good quest tracking system…a good chat…a good visual to show what drop and what the rarity…something to turn off stupid pets out of your way…all stuff that any indie game out there have ¬¬