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Large Panto Spear-man Re-spawn rate Nerf to 30 minutes from 5 min,IMC can you please explain why?

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#1

As the tittle says i dont understand why Large Panto Spear-man was Nerf to spawn again after 30 minutes every time it dies.

I know Panto Spearhead is extremely rare like 0.1% i m fine with it and i know its used in high grade recipe for a Sword.

Its not a sure drop, ok fine again, i might get it on my 1st or 9999 kill i m fine with it again.

5 minute spawn rate is logical but 30 minute??? people were farming between 800 to 2000+.

How are we suppose to complete the collection now?

If you could make at least the drop rate a sure drop like Cafrisun that would be great.

On a different note i also dont know why they Nerf Cafrisun also?

But really almost no one hunts down Panto spear-man only some collectors like myself.

Please IMC can u give at least an explanation.

I mean official explanation, i know u dont reply in Individual posts but a reply would definitely help.

Should i send a support ticket? really sad and stressed about it

Sorry if it sounds like a weird post but…i would love to complete all collections and not make it hard to complete a minor feature of the game.

Any thoughts-opinions from other people would be appreciated.

Everyday i m farming it alone and now also alone farming it but 30 minutes?

Did you IMC fix 30 minute spawn rate so that only bots can farm it?

Or should we spend all our free time when we dont work- study farming it?

I have read similar posts like the 30 minute thief’s in demon prison spawn rate Nerf.

I want to ask if anyone plays on the Korean server , is the Spawn rate or Panto Spear-man 30 minutes? If not then IMC really bad job here…

This is not a nice way to slow down the progression of the game to force us to dedicate more time, in this way you are making us hate the game.

Also i would like to remind IMC you decreased the channels from 15 to 4 !! Jesus…I sure hope KR version is not like this and if it isn’t Bring back 15 channels and increased drop chance or old spawn Rate.

I m sure u can find other ways for Server stability than decreasing channels.

I m sure you can find other ways to make us play the game more than slowing down our progression.

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#2

Wait, seriously? They changed it to 30min? oh my god.

I’ve been farming for antler horns for so long. i guess rip to that, since nobody ever would let me reincarnate farm them.

#3

Better tag staffs here, the new spawn rate is bs.

#4

Yes change to 30 min…i feel just sad…

Lower number of channels increase time of spawn for not an important monster…i mean come on…are they doin it on purpose?

#5

New spawn rate is indeed bad but i want opinions here not random stuff…

#6

They are doing it on purpose. Though i dont care about that mob, some botters must have camped it, so IMC launches another “aimed at bots, hit the players” measurement.

#7

this goes to galoks on church1f too. expect battle bracelt prices to skyrocket…

#8

Maybe they did this to every mob that has this miniboss flag thing.
Makes me remember that I discovered on my third character that Vubbe Fighters actually exist.

#9

Yea i noticed they re doin it on purpose but to remind them , they make more money from Europe-US to higher currency rate than on what they make in South Korea so i dont know why they are chasin their clients away.

Sometimes they need to hear our opinion too.

From 20.000 players we re just around 300 in every server

-200 which are bots.

So yea 100 players is an amazin number…

I dont think botters will bother with a mob that needs 2000 kills and maybe it drops somethin, i think they go more for sure drops and silver and higher value drops.

If this is a bot measure and Korean version has 5 minute spawn rate i might quit and start there …Jesus, there is an English patch anyway.

#10

great…nerf all the drops and force us to buy from bots and then complain bots run the game…

Management of this company is…beyond just bad…

Its horrible…

I dont know who has these amazin ideas to keep nerfin everythin.

#11

Vubbe fighters are valuable more than this Trash mob and a lot of ppl hunt them.

#12

IMC my suggestion is

Go back to old spawn rates. 5 minutes. 30 minutes for 1 Monster spawn is way too much time consuming and people or they will buy from bots or they will start to bot themselves.

Make the drop a sure drop like Cafrisun .

Ok wait 30 minutes but get the item u want.

Increase the Channels i dont mind even 400 hours if i have 100 channels.

#13

I agree with you Nataly. IMC has been devoted rather to improve the game, but in the question of freedom player, she has been dedicated to making painful experience. First was the limitation on the exchange interaction between the players now increase Cafrisun the rise time to 30 minutes … for things to lack of a policy that is less unfair to the player, tree of savior has fallen every day.
Like so many, I ask the IMC to return the spawn time Cafrisun to what it was before.

#14

Okay so…

30 minutes spawn rate

48 spawns/day

MAXIMUM of 330 kills/week (if always killed as it spawns)

–> Since DPK count resets on server crash/maintenance, it is officially impossible to get any DPK item with a drop rate of less than 0.3% for those mobs with a 30 minute spawn rate. (unless there are more than one, but even then, they need to be on the same counter, which is far from always being the case, depending on whether they are considered as one spawn or several).

Well done.

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#16

IMC logic never see’s to amaze me…

I m sure some lazy office dude thinks all this crap instead of really good solution.

Come on PPL IMC is payin u money if u wanna fight bots or whatever they reason may be u dont need to nerf the spawn, lower the channels or whatever u hurt the players not the bots.

I have a limited time due to my work and study but if u dont let me get the item in a legit way…Then i ll install a VPN make a dummy account, buy the boting program which u can just google. Tree of savior bot program and then good luck fightin bots.

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#17

I m sure they introduced the TOKEN not to fight bots but to find a way to force u to give them ur money.

I m fine with that but at least let me enjoy the freakin game please…

I cant progress or feel happy if u stop me from enjoyin the game.

Sure rare item needs a lot of time to get, yep i get it.

I m ready to spend 5.000 hours but with a chance to get it.

Its like now there is 0 chance to get it…so yea not happy about it.

At least Cafrisun drops for sure the item…This guy here no…He will drop 1 time in 1 day and that is MAYBE not sure and after like 1000+ kills.

If we have only 48 spawns per day then yea…good luck.

#18

TO my knowledge there are 3 and not always spawnin all 3 of them and u need to walk to find them, Random spots…so yea…not an easy task…

and just 48 per day…

I remember 1 guy killed 800 in 1 day another one 1000+ and another one 2000+ how can i kill 800 in 1 day when i can only fid 330 / week and this is if i m lucky and i always kill them…

Today i reached lvl 70 just cause i moved on to levelin and stopped dedicatin time on this item so sad…i feel cheated that i lost so much of my time before.

#19

My bro and I have some clerics set aside to build into oracles later because Panto Spearman was already a mother f***** beforehand. Now oracles have jumped in value. (I too am looking for antlers).

#20

I think they never explained their actions. Other than this one time when mr. Kim was defending his market restrictions and antibot policy.

Can’t hear something like this from them.
“We chanded cd on joint penalty because we felt this and that. However linker still has x and y to compensate. Our tests indicate that blah blah competitive.”

More like every week they spin the wheel of fortune at their office and decide what to change.