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Lapis Katzbalger vs Hell & Heaven

Hey guys, I was wondering what are ya’lls thoughts regarding Lapis Katzbalger vs Hell&Heaven. Does the bonus physical dmg from H&H outperform the crit dmg increase from LK? I’ve been thinking about splurging for one since the beta is closing fast.

Forgot to mention that I went C1 swordsman-C1 highlander-C3 barb-C1 doppel.

Lapis Katzbalger awakening option: +26 Dex
Hell and Heaven awakening option: +24 HP recovery

Pick your poison.

and i’m not sure it is proper to compare lvl 75 weapon to lvl 170 just because lvl 170 will outdo lvl 75 just with base values and refining.

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Interesting, so you think that the pure increase in raw physical dmg that H&H provides outweighs the crit dmg from lapis. You do make a valid point that it is kinda silly to compare the two in regards to the swords required level.

i know you wanna splurge but if you want a full budget sword try
awakening a dress sword

+107 phys damage

in terms of raw physical damage its stronger than a nulis
but nulis has the str and aoe ratio
dress sword has better range though

awakened dress sword 264 - 399 (+107 phys to min and max damage)
nulis 225 - 390 (accounted for extra str)

if you have the millions then H&H still wins out for most damage and will most likely blow LK and other swords out of the water

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Thanks for your input yodish. I think I’m just gonna stick to the H&H due to the end of the beta fast approaching. Might as well go out with a bang right? I’m excited to give H&H a go.

I couldn’t seem to find where H&H drop. May I know how to get the recipe ?

it drops for level 200 dungeon

So I got an H&H and overall I like the weapon. My H&H is still at base stats and is slightly more powerful than my +8/3 socketed Lapis Katzbalger. Been swaping to this weapon during world bosses/dungeon bosses and it’s awesome. The weapon is well worth the investment in my opinion.

However, the obvious downside to H&H is the huge loss of physical defense. Be prepared to take a lot of damage from high level mobs and potentially one shotted by world bosses such as Dullahan.

the best sword is ASTON great sword , awakening give 50 STR , and crit damage formula is flat damage like concentrate , pure damage power is better than crit power with 50% attribute

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