bloodletting a 10 second duration at max level with 120 second cooldown - thatll fix it - 55 second immune to all and 60 second cooldown must be a joke xD
well i asked - ppl saying its for the whole party so idk wish somebody could confirm this who played a pb on ktos
So I had a scary thought. How do you kill a c3cleric - c3priest - plague doctor that has immunity to magic circles from [fade], āpracticallyā immunity to physical damage from [stone skin], and condition immunity from [bloodletting]? Wait for stars to align for that opening in buff duration?
easy just Knockdown it with warrior until stone skin buff gone
for archer use heavy shot knockback, the skill has 0s CD
itās on 1v1 tough, on 5v5 nah idk 
kTOS
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Nice joke
yesterday and today top 20 pvp rank 20-30% of them is Plague Doctor
we have many class in the game = =
You can try. And then Plague puts on his\her Beak Mask.
Classic.
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Ikr? I havenāt even considered [safety zone]. F#ck!! And to think they BUFFED [safety zone].
I swear swordies (the base class so it affects all swordies) need to be the anti-mage.
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No really, they just need to buff Swordsmen, not nerf them.
That and nerf Bloodletting and Stone Skin. They are ridiculous.
I think both [bloodletting] and [stone skin] need āchargesā.
Gain charges on use. Every time you get hit by a condition, -1 charge to [bloodletting]. Every time you get hit by physical damage, -1 charge to [stone skin]. Get to 0 charges and itās gone. This at least has counter play.
Burn the charges with easy to apply crap conditions, or multi hits. You canāt have immunities with with amazing up times with long duration.
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i think they just need to have small area affects, like everyone else, with aoe ratios. you wouldnāt let something be strong and hit the whole area at once if it were a magic spell or physical attack, everyone would quit.
That just makes it (potentially) affect less people. The people affected are still for all practicality āimmortalā. That is the problem, these skills immunize something from something else for a significant amount of time.
For a simpler example, look at [blessing]. Short duration, significant cast time. Keeping [blessing] up takes time away from doing something else.
Me: aw crap [blessing]'s gone. gotto go cast it agai ā¦ ohSHIT wtf was that I gotto heal but Iām still casting [blessing].
Thatās a twitch thing. Seconds matter. Thatās at least āsomeā counter play.
At some point Iām like
Me: fuckit, dashitās hit the fan. I aināt casting [blessing] no more cuz I gotto do something else.
The problem with stone skin is that that the multiplier is just way too high.
At max lvl 5 it is 400 + spr x 4 (or whatever it is now)
1 spr of the priest is = 4 spr (block pene) of yours.
As a physical dps, your probably never going to have higher spr than a priest in the first place.
Stone is has little to no drawbacks to using it all (given how hard it shuts down physical dps).
Skills of the defensive nature like resist elemental (low percent % chance and limited to only 4 elements), high guard (gives only 250 block to self at cost of attack), increase mdef (gives low-fair amount of mdef with low spr multiplier), barrier (similar to increase mdef), slithering (low duration), and etcā¦ have some sort of drawback/weakness.
Ah, i remember my full vit sorc from Diablo 2. The only character i soloed 1.9 with, including hell.
ā¦ oh, iām sorry. Look at me, iām rambling again.
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Well, yeah [stone skin] does have a drawback. If you invested x hard SPR for 4x block thatās x less hard stats from something else. [stone skin] aināt blocking much on a build with no SPR investment compared to that.
There is no reason not to invest in SPR for Priests, since they have excellent skills, not only Stone Skin, scaling exactly from SPR and INT.
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Stoneskin by itself already outclasses highguard by 160 block with none of drawbacks (-50% attack & -100 crit) and is applied to everyone else.
A build with no spr investment??? As a c3 priest, one should have some spr (especially if you are running stoneskin). Even if you would consider it a drawback, that drawback is very minuscule at best.
The problem is people that run dps arenāt going to have to block pene arenāt going to have enough spr to get past that high of shield block
Sure. But letās look at say 400 SPR vs 400 CON. 1600 block vs 34000 HP. Thatās 34100 less magic damage someone has to burn you down with. Extreme I know, but thatās to drive a point.
But thatās besides my point. I wonāt argue the values anymore. Counter play has to be directed at your affected target. For [stone skin], itās physical atk users. For [bloodletting], itās condition users. These guys need to be able to have the chance to bypass said mechanic.
You donāt need to go full SPR, so that Stone Skin takes itās effect, though. Thatās why it is so good.
And for oracle it is magic users. Counter-Spell creates an anti-magic zone.
If you get priest3, oracle, and PD, you can be effectively immune to all damage and CC as long as you are in the counter-spell area.
PvP meta for me right now seems like all c3 cataphracts should be doing is bee-lining to the cleric and taking them out of the picture.