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kTOS makes most untradable item tradable

Some people actually enjoy experiencing the content of the game, believe it or not. :V

the fact ET gears are tradable pretty much confirms all endgame content can be unlocked by afk farming silver

Rare drop + untradeable + limited chances has always been a stupid system, so removing the untradeable part of the equation is welcome. Other games, with their endgame raids, always drop gear, and the number of players involved means that, unless you’ve been farming for a while, it is useful gear that drops. ToS is the opposite in almost every way. Recipes aren’t guaranteed, and when you get one it is most likely the wrong one. And since it is untradeable, the wrong one is a useless one, wasting the time and money you spent obtaining it. Spending hours of time and millions of silver to not improve your character at all is a great way to burn people out.

I don’t have much of an opinion about ET gear being tradeable, with the new tower levels it doesn’t seem to me that big of a deal for lolopanther to be easier to acquire. But Virtov and Saalus gear either needed to become tradeable or have their drop rate increased massively, because the current system is untenable.

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Simply not true. I don’t do RMT, but I’m glad for a chance to trade my Virtov doubles for the recipes I need! Got almost all Virtov recipes I don’t need at least once, but none of the ones I need!

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ET gear isn’t end game gear any more in Korea, if I recall correctly. Neither is virtov or saalus

Players melting down bosses within minutes just by spamming skills is akin to a Heroic dungeon boss in WoW or other games with “hardmode” bosses.

They pale in comparison to Raid bosses with different phases and varying mechanics that require voice-coordination with a detailed plan just to take down said monster.

Do any of the encounters you mention require these things? Be completely honest.

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ET gear is still endgame. There is no armor that is better at this time. Most of the R8 armors that were released are items that bridge the gap between Lolopanther users and non-Lolopanther users. Solmiki gear is better, but Solmiki Zone has not yet been released.

@dinwitt - Lolopanther gear becomes stupidly hard for anyone who has never set foot in Earth Tower before R8 release. The reasoning is because the Lv. 1 Earth Fragment resource, which you used to receive in abundance, was massively cut with the R8 patch. Previously the boss essence was the limiting factor, now with the exception of maybe the chest and weapon, the fragments are an issue.

So… Time to farm ET as much as we can!

I want item to be tradable.

My main is healer. I don’t need any equip from Saalus. But I’m doing it because I’m a healer and the party needs me.
If I found an item that I need to my alt, I have the right to trade it in Team Storage.
And I want to trade the items to my friends too (who joined with me in Saalus).

You all are speaking about drop in WoW.
In WoW you can trade the item even if is Bind on picked up for 1 hr (dun remmeber correctly) with the same member you have done the raid.

For me this is Tree of Solo, I play with friends and I can’t trade/gift items.

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I agree with the ones saying this might not be the best idea… They should make most things tradeable, but the best things should only be tradeable through team storage.

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get a rank in 280 boss, then get ET weapon crafted then come talk again…getting cube from 280 isnt easy…those top guild with top DPS can easily cut u down…then u cry not get cube…going ET is bad news if u are not meta build…no one want u…clear 100 mob with 300k hp in 5m is a joke to solo player…ET is not about the boss but more like tower defend from Warcraft…clear large amount of mob while boss is piece of cake

So is the gear tradeable in this other game? no. bind on pickup usually. So why are you suggesting things from other games that you say is a stupid system?

Maybe give me an example of this game where the good gear is tradeable?

I dont know of a mmorpg where you get useful items on every dungeon run either. If there is one and it is tradeable it must be worthless items which means its not useful…

They actually change this. Now you have super RNG system with random stats. Just think about it, you drop Catacombs pike with always 3 random stats, woa fua… many players quit from WoW because of this worse-than-ToS-system.

So yes, make tradable this items because actually noone even look on saalus drop seriously.

Woah, didn’t know it.
I don’t nerd it since WOTLK.
Thank you!

I leave after MoP. They change tons of things made game brainless much more.
I know this is casuals game but it’s borring as hell when every blood DK is the same formula etc. This is why I am here in this buggy game. Many builds, many options and tons of fun… aaaand grind aaaand IMC’s. Actually tradable gear is ok. Now we will get Somiki gear so if this one isn’t tradable it’s ok. I don’t read everything here so i can miss some info.

No different from WoW Heroics ^o.o^

Tradeable BiS gear is one of the main reasons I stopped playing Wakfu.

People can just RMT or exchange for BiS gear, negating their need to actually try harder content the Developers spend time on making.

I feel like the gear should be a reward for those participating in difficult events. Making it tradeable just kinda trivializes the existence of harder event instances.

I’ve played games where I could farm low-level or high need items that higher level players simply don’t want to waste time farming for, and then purchase BiS items with the money earned. Sure, in a way I earned the items by playing the market house or trading game in those games, but it negated any need for me to do the instance unless I want to go to help another group of people gear up.

That often doesn’t happen, because most people are selfish by nature and won’t bother participating in difficult event instances unless they need to ^o.o^

Still, there will only be as many lolopanther items in the market as “hardcore” players decide to put in circulation. It’s not like RMT’ers could farm them like they farm silver and BB’s. Yes, they will bot to farm the silver to buy them, but I honestly prefer the tons of millions those bots will offer me, which will go to attributes and the new R8 gear than having my stats a little bit higher

look its obvious im mad that lolopanther and virtov is now tradable, BUT THIS ISNT THE MAIN POINT HERE

the point here, is that everything ever released in this game NO MATTER HOW HARD OR HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET can be obtained by any RMT user in a matter of minutes

new raids released? COOL! ET now goes up to floor 50 and takes 3 hours to complete? FUN!

everything in the game you obtain is tradable? AWESOME

i bet you wont be feeling this though, when 5 months from now your level 400 character finally finished ET floor 50, and realized it was all for nothing because RMT users already have everything in the game from day 1 of release by using mommys credit card

its not about the equipment out now, its about future updates becoming pointless to do.

all mmo’s have a raid-tier system where u must do dungeons to obtain gear for your characters, this isnt runescape where u can just buy gold and get best in slot gear on day 1 of making your account

But it’s going to be when the update hits, so either accept it or quit

huehue

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