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KToS General Thread v4.0

I think everyone should dress everything.

I want my male dressing as miko.

They finally did what they did with magnum opus :confused:

it still comes with it share of problems, like skill getting canceled and loosing all time and progress


@migliole

AMEN!!

Baby steps. Still waiting for both to become shops.

nah! I prefer to be on the move, been a shop is not my thing and I even dislike what they did to awakening :frowning:

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On the move? You have peaked my interest.

has there been any info on fixing attack speed based on your ping? its pretty anoying to be worse than other players only for the location

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Whats the general opinion of ToS on the Korean side, specifically Boruta and gem feud, do they like being pressured into pvp?

They should just let us buy +11 coupons flat out, they get piles of cash and people arent freaking out about getting screwed over on the broken anvil system, seems like a win/win to me.

If anyone counters and says that would be pay to win then wtf do you call the people that lined up at the tp npc last night to buy dozens of demon cubes only to turn around and flip all the cosmetics for clean velco weapons, armors and 100s of blessed shards in shout chat.

I would have np handing them some cash for a coupon.

I don’t think there is someone who disagrees that would be p2w as well. Maybe there are some who think it is not that bad, but they wouldn’t disagree that you’re paying real money to get advantages.

It is not the same type, because you still need someone else to play for you and get those things you said, but it is p2w, yes.

If you’re saying that because no one complained about that before, well, we did, a long time ago when we had energy. We just got tired of complaining.

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It doesnt bother me, they are keeping the lights on honestly for a game thats survived on 1-2k players for 3 years.

I just would like a legitimate cash shop is all, where we actually get to choose what we spend our money on, not just get force fed blind grab bags.

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The game has always been p2w, it was negligible before balance patch because of the way damage was calculated (most came from skills).
Since balance patch, with most of damage coming from gears, it all went downhill.

IMC, on their side, made everything they could to implement unwanted p2w features like leticia cube and so on.

As you said, it’s useless to complain at this point and I honestly don’t care if people want to waste their money in a bug-ridden game and get milked while the game doesn’t get basic bug fixes.

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I don’t think the problem is that p2w exists, but it is a problem when it was sold in the beginning that it was going to not have p2w.

Frankly, I wouldn’t mind paying a subscription. Or having a payed server without p2w option while we had other non-payed servers with the p2w.

Yeah, well, everything they have done showed they never cared for iToS and they only aimed to milk brainless whales that throw money at everything.

Honestly, tho, a game with so many bugs and problems would not survive a subscription only model.

They made a huge mistake in the beginning giving tons of free TP via GVG, it was also exploited left and right and they didn’t even bother to ban exploiters.

How did they expect people to spend money?

The only problem with the whales comes when you force people to pvp for progression.

Its of no concern to me if someone spends two thousand dollars a month on TP to get ahead, and before you say no-one does I can name you 1 guy on Klai. right now that absolutely does.

The problem is when you force normal players with children or lives in general to compete against them in trash like Boruta.

But hey, I guess a 4 hour raid event that times out with the boss at 65% health is working as intended.

Well, in the end of the day, I also don’t mind p2w as long as it is limited only to PVE.

The moment it affects PVP and competitions, is when it gets dumb for me.

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If they didn’t remove equalized gear from pvp back then, we wouldn’t be in this situation.

They are just doing an endless streak of bad choices that are only going to bring the game in its grave.

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PvE affects PvP, because you get all your gears from PVE, ideally
ToS should’ve stick to cosmetics only in it’s loot-boxes rush. And IMC should’ve invested more times and resources in visuals if they want money - people will always buy nice costumes/sprites/etc

The whole game management is very poor, but what else can you expect from Nexon

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these p2w things are good, I do not spend money on games, never, but people spend, but I do not play PvP, so I do not care if people buy strength, nothing changes in my life, and this will generate a lot of money for the IMC, the question is if they will reinvest this money in the game, if yes, it will be esselente

that’s a really narrow-minded way to look at the situation. These things might not affect you, but they affect the game’s integrity as a whole, and as a product. We shouldn’t just excuse predatory game design practices just because it’s convenient. Consumers hold power, and the current backlash against lootboxes and big companies and plummeting stock across the board proves it.

I never buy microtransactions beyond character slots but I’m still concerned about this stuff for the sake of other players.

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whales hold power aka braindead consumers / rich people who dont give af
i dont think anything will change in the foreseeable future, seems like folk are just naturally inclined into getting scammed.

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