can somebody confirm the details on this?
I should put a (?) behind it because I can’t confirm. Only dataminers can.
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Ok
Planning to say this too @thailehuy
And those 3 skill you said only improve 50%
As i alrdy said pre nerf serpentine giving to much its need to tone down a little
High Kick is 100% to Strike.
I dont think anyone should complain about that of all things tho.
Strike is woefully under-represented and only Pelt/Rodel/Murmillo make use of it. Paladin too I guess.
Monk and SR3 as well, also broom trap. The bottomline is that debuffs shouldn’t stack at all - only the highest one available at the time should apply.
You have 100%(High kick) + 100%(Slithering) + 50%(Headbutt) from your character alone - add in any Wizard class and that’s another 100% from Lethargy. A dragoon2? Yeah, another 100%. I could go on (Taoist, Falconer3, etc) but you see the point.
Never knew that, thanks, guess it’s still 5s then, enough for 2-3 skills. Most likely dethrone x2 + dragon tooth
Those 3 skills last much longer, spear lunge 12s, cleave 15s, high kick 10s on 15s cooldown.
Overall the only thing those 3 lose to serpentine is the attack type.
The recent top 1 world boss dragoon is only there because he can stack spear lunge + serpentine. As long as they fix it so those debuffs don’t stack, it should be ok
The thing is, the class that can stack all of that for himself, Rodel C3/Murmillo, only has Murmillo’s skills that actually do high base damage. It’s not like Targe Smash or Shield Bash are suddenly the most OP things in the game, oh boy no.
Non-stacking debuffs would ruin quite a few swordie paths, even if it would be a justified nerf for the more broken ones on kToS now.
Hence why only serpentine being a target here is honestly quite understandable.
It honestly won’t matter if your base damage is high or not when the multiplier is that big - Murmillo particularly because it actually has buffs to skills as well as debuffs, which makes the whole thing multiplicative.
■■■■ Murmillo skills base damage when you have the helm and high guard buffing umbo/rim blow by +400% and 350% respectively (these 2 are additive with each other) and then make enemies take +250% damage (multiplicative with the aforementioned).
And even with all those multipliers, Murmillo is far from the most broken high damage class.
There’s a reason they targetted dragoon c2 specifically with this nerf, and even then it’s a duration nerf, not a damage nerf.
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The reason being: everyone and their mother is dragoon c2 right now, because that doesn’t take ONE specific build to work.
Murmillo will most likely get hit as well once there’s enough pelt/rodes around.
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JP Hm > MM combo post patches Gwenyth had post above
pre patches of same player recorded 3 days ago.
Currently they are performing urgent maintenance
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I know base damage matters, if you read the rest of my post i’m talking specifically about murmillo and high damage multipliers:
373 (umbo blow) + 1500 patk (rather low amount, considering transcendence is now available) + * 8.3 (330% from high guard + 400% from helm) * 3.5 (+250% from the debuffs) = 54k after physical attack and 2 overheats for 108k total. For reference if you added the same 1500 patk to your own example that would make it 54k as well lol. Shooting Star would be the same deal except it has a bit higher base damage, and a built-in 5x multiplier (it does 5 hits?).
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They work the exact same. It doesn’t matter if you’re doing 1 hit of 400% or 4 hits of 100% each other than defense applying more than once (which’s honestly a non issue). If you have 50% chance to crit your 1 hit 400% dmg skill will crit half the time for 500% avg dmg (400% * 1.25). If you have 50% chance to crit your 4 hit 100% will crit on average for half of its hits, so 2 hits of 150% and 2 hits of 100% for… 500% avg dmg.
I didn’t even mention the staggering bonus from umbo blow - just high guard and murmillo’s helm. So rim blow would show the exact same numbers. Both rim and umbo blow are 12s 2 overheats, Shooting Star is 25s 2 overheats. Do you even need more skills to be this strong?
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