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This is an pure dps build and its nothing to compare with Archer, just look at the 2 wiz in musketeer vid above.

This is an support, you barely has any dmg like chrono vid above, featherfoot has long cd.

This CC build is just pure suck in pve, you barely provide any support or dmg for your party. And you must wait till rank 7 for that.

@Erokhi
Quick Cast is a self buff and if you go C3 Thauma you’d fall to support build and barely does any dmg.
Remember most wiz spells has pretty long cd ? you can’t spamming skills like other classes. With Wiz 3 Thaum 3 you only have a single dps skill: Magic Missile.

And what if i want to be a pure dps like pyro, ele, warlock, sorc,…? am i have to forever living under Archer’s shadow ?

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When will you make possible to queue with party?

Hey man, I’m a Sorcerer C2 and I live in no one’s shadow and I feel pretty good about my DPS and the tankiness of summon. Just saying.

And before Sorcerer I took 1 rank of Linker and 1 rank of Thaumaturge and life has been easy for me since then.

My God, then it’s your job to figure it out by yourself.
I can’t possibly put all Wizard builds that my friends use. They would kill me. :sweat_smile:

I already told you that you can always add Thaum for your DPS-Support build.
You can take Wiz-Pyro c2-Thaum c3-Warlock combination, or Wiz c1-Cryo c3-Thaum c2-Warlock combination, or Wiz c1-Pyro c2-Thaum c2-Ele c2 combination, or Wiz c1-Pyro c2-Thaum c2-Necro c2, etc.

Why don’t I include Linker in those builds? Because you said this, so Imma screw Linker from the examples

Wizard DPS maybe can’t spam their DPS as Archer can in grinding. But in bossfight, Wizard DPS is one of the primary source of damage to finish the fight much faster.

So much fail. Do you even know what does the abbreviation dps stands for?

Total damage dealt = (1179 + 1864) x 2 x 17 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 232789.5 damage in mere 17 seconds. oh my, how weak Wizard DPS is

Are you really sure the DPS is 232789.5?

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It’s a pretty good spell but it’s CD is long and the boss would have to stand in it the whole time. Sadly though C1 it does less matk per min then a lvl10 Zaibus even with it’s CD being such a big constraint. It’s a nice bursty thing though…

I know that only cause I’m weird and break down spells into matk per min for some reason or other.

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Play another game, maybe? TOS is not a TOy Store, where you can pick whatever you want according to your taste.

Dev’s idealism is to make a game where the ā€œRoleā€ element plays a massively important part, hence each class is unique.

Damage is number, effectiveness is another story.

Effective DPS > Pure DPS

Think deep.

Whine less.

EB is not blocked by SZ?

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So I said the total amount of damage is 232789.5 in 17 seconds.
If you can do math, you can simply divide that amount by 17, so 13693 damage per second.

If it has short cd, all DPS classes would cry for a nerf again. We have enough whining in this thread already. :sweat_smile:

That’s where the Swordsman with Swashbuckling comes in, to make sure the boss stay in their place.

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Yes, my Monk friend tried it when he fought fellow Clerics at ICBT2. Those Clerics didn’t know what hit them.

Whatever floats your boat lol. I make that post is for the benefit of others to not mindlessly take random internet post for granted.

Since fitzfeliz dare not even reply his QS arrow shooting speed, let me put this into perspective for all readers here.

100ms ping is literally that. 100millisecond delay. And what is 100millisecond? 100millisecond is 0.1second.

Yes people you read it right. Your delay is no where in the region of even A SINGLE SECOND, unless somehow you get 4digit ping. A 300ping QS will still be firing 3 arrows in a second. A 500ping QS will still get 2 arrows out.

So the next time you see someone telling you QS is not suitable for high ping players. Ask yourself. Is 2 arrows within a second inferior to other archer jobs.

Well looks like you are not able to do the maths.

The correct answer is divide that value by 120, not 17. That is the true meaning of damage per second. You calculate the average damage you are doing on a per second basis. Not the ā€œBURSTā€ damage you do per second(which is the value if you divide by 17).

Sorry for my stupidity man. So, I must divide the damage dealt with the cooldown of the skill, right?
That means 1939 damage. That’s horrible. I changed my mind, Wizard’s damage per second is weak. :scream:

Well, anyway, can you tell me whether Archer can deal 232789.5 in just 17 seconds?
Maybe not that amount, let’s say 83880 damage in mere 12 seconds. Can Archer do it?

Because the reason why I explained all that is to reassure Wizard users that Wizard can still compete in terms of damage with Archer, not to be a smart guy that knows the description of DPS.

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If I remember correctly, since the last steam beta (icbt) snatching always worked on any enemy regardless o flying or grounded. So kuddos to the stun doing so as well

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you never party with Qs high ping before?
High ping Qs is trash

Maybe not that amount, let’s say 83880 damage in mere 12 seconds. Can Archer do it?

Is there a world boss or elite mob with hp around that value matching the character level?

If there isn’t, is the boss/elite typically more or less hp then the above mention value?

Doing 83880dmg in 12s and 0 dmg in the next 108s in a world boss is consider amazing?

Even a pitiful archer with just 700dmg using a multishot on 18s cooldown will do more dmg then you in world boss.

700162(overheat)=22400

So in the first 18s, a warlock deal more dmg. But if the target isn’t dead…

83880/22400=3.74464286

So on the 4th set of multishot, an archer would have done more then 83880dmg. Or on the 72nd second. 54th second if you assume archer engage with first set of multishot not on cooldown.

Unless you tell me worldboss dies in like 30second or less, then yeah sure a warlock with burst damage is better. But we all know full well that isn’t true.

PS: Remember your warlock calculation is done with +50%, which I can’t even be bother to throw in with +45% from ranger.

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