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Krivis to Pardoner?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

So, with Taoist coming soon, I wanted to make a Krivis (currently c2 lvl 60 something). But I don’t really know what to fill the gap with and I was thinking that Pardoner would be an ok choice for my empty pockets.

Though having right clicked on pardoners around the cities, none of them have even one rank in anything else other than cleric and (more commonly) are c3 priests.

Is it a bad idea to go Pardoner with a c3 Krivis/Taoist? If so, what would be decent filler from ranks 5-7?

Current build: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/j3mfk4pq8r/

#2

you can go pardoner, but i REALLY suggest only c1.

heres everyhting wrong with ur build-

  • u need cleric c2, u only have c1 :frowning:

  • u put points into spell shop (which u wont have if u only go c1 pard) spell shop oly sells priest buffs.

  • take out the c2/c3 parodner and replace them with cleric c2 and oracle/druid/plaue dcotor/ect

#3

I agree with this, pardoner 1. Cause u can simony your krivis skills into scrolls but cant sell spells as spell shop.
But since u take pardoner 1 u pretty much have to take discerning evil and that works well with PD incinerate. And PD incinerate combo is best done with bokor hexing though. Well i personally gave up krivis 3 and settled for zaibas 10 instead of 15 (which may be bad) cause i believe although storm calling buffs lightning dmg i doubt you can rely on zaibas to be your only killing machine.
Im currently making cleric2 krivis2 bokor1 pardoner PD and then going taoist. I like experimenting so yea hahah

#4

It is quite difficult to make money as a non-buff seller pardoner. Even Priest C3 buff seller pardoners make little money.

Spell Shop opens a shop to sell buffs which use items (Blessing, Sacramentus, Aspersio).

Simony lets you craft a skill into a scroll, and you may sell the scroll on the market. If you go to the auction house NPC, try to type ‘Skill’ into the search bar and hit enter. You will see the skill scrolls for sale, and their price.

Your skill scroll level will be the maximum level of either your skill, or the Simony level. So a level 3 cure + lvl 10 Simony = lvl 3 skill scroll. A level 15 aukuras + lvl 4 simony = lvl 4 skill scroll. If you ever raise Simony skill lvl too much, you can’t go back. The most popular skill scroll to sell for krivis is Daino (lvl 1 to lvl 4).

Making Scrolls beyond lvl 1 skills is very expensive, and the market taxes you a lot. For each level of skill scroll, you will have to pay silvers + each level requires 2x Parchment (an item - sold by the pardoner master Goldmund).

So you should not expect to make a fortune through Pardoner 1/2/3.

Offensive pardoner
Your main utility skill discerning evil is great, it will extend most debuffs in the game. For example you may extend a freeze CC by +seconds. Especially at rank8, you could extend the debuff of dragoon2 and other classes by a lot.

However, the only offense a pardoner offers is Discerning Evil. Other utility skills are the Magic defence buff, and Indulgentia to lure mobs and to cure your party.

#5

I would suggest you to pick something else other than pardoner.

Making scrolls is a disappointing business. You can get a bit of silver over the days, but it will gimp your character with that pardoner circle and the silver gain is so minimal you will profit thousands more if you just level to 280 as quickly as possible.

Consider getting cleric 2 for better heals, safety zone and divine might. You will need it for later game content.

For later ranks, you can think of getting pardoner c1 only if you are completely certain to go plague doctor c2. But otherwise, there are many other classes that would benefit you greatly: druid2 for dps/support, priest1 for ressurect, oracle1 pd1 for amazing debuff resistance, kab1 for sp recovery, etc…

#6

Originally, I planned on this build becoming a c3 Druid with cleric c2 and c3 krivis. The pardoner part in this build was really just a test or question in itself.

I’m not sure now if I should go c3 Krivis tho, and is c3 cleric worth it or is c2 good enough? (I’m a bit of a sucker for c3ing classes lol) I would still like a c3 Krivis and Taoist (just because the synergy seems nice), but yea. I’ll easily abandon the Pardoner and find something else.

Anyway, something to think about and play around with I guess.

#7

You have a lot of options.
I don’t recommend SPR priest1/2/3 if you’d like to use melstis, since it drains %SP. Taking priest1 just for resurrection is ok utility.
Diev3/X-Druid2 -> Taoist if you like to put down AoE (buffs).

Cleric2 is very popular since it will have sufficient heal tiles (10), the safety zone attribute, fade as utility (don’t use at worldbosses), divine might, and a stronger cure. Cleric 3 offers very similar skills since Guardian Saint isn’t very useful.

#8

I was just checking out oracle actually, is that any good? I think it’s safe to assume that I’ll be going c2 cleric, c3 krivis at this point (not really a fan of anything sub rank 6). Not sure if I’ll c3 oracle though (although they do seem like they’d make excellent trolls with one of their c3 skills lol).

#9

If you C3 oracle, you cannot get Taoist.

Only oracle 2 I know is @Ynirie , so if you’d like in-game experience feedback you could try to message her. It is recommended to either go c1 oracle or c3 oracle because oracle2 doesn’t offer a lot. C3 is really to open the shop. C1 offers every utility you’d need.

#10

Hmm, hows; “‘Cleric’>‘c3 Krivis’>‘c2 Cleric’>‘c2 Priest’>‘Taoist’”, sound? I still keep synergy while supporting my parties and such. Or is Priest c3 far better than cleric 2 or krivis 3?

#11

I don’t think priest3 is better without a medium-high SPR build, since priest3 Stone Skin (and blessing 15) scale on SPR. Blessing scales on INT too.

Priest2 will offer you another utility through the revive buff. You won’t have to worry about buff-limit since you are a krivis3.

#12

Is blessing still worth taking on a no SPR build (since INT is 0.02x vs SPRs 0.06x)? Outside of that, this build looks nice now. Although I kinda want to pick Bokor just to be thematic about the charms n all, but I’ve tried and didn’t like Bokor before, and I’m sure c2 Bokor isn’t that great lol

#13

I don’t know which other priest skill you would like to take intstead of blessing 10. Blessing adds some extra damage. Blessing will make each heal tile hit twice if you plan to use heals offensively.

I’d recommend at least lvl 1 monstrance, since it has a nice dex Buff for your party (lvl 1 monstrance buff is equal to lvl 15 monstrance buff). The buff is applied to all party members in range (you don’t have to move to the circle). The buff increases party dex by 30%, plus gives +10 flat dex.

About bokor, you could ask in the bokor thread. However if you dislike the play you should not take it.

Diev
I think diev offers amazing utility through the statue aura. Doesn’t really matter which rank you take diev. However keep in mind your level speed/teamplay/goals, and possible other classes. If you aim to rush kriv3 as soon as possible, don’t take diev at r3 obviously.

#14

How about Dievdirbys c2 instead of priest? Not worth it I’m willing to assume at that late stage? I would probably leave Krivis c3 till rank 7 if that isn’t the case (and possibly cleric c2 at rank 6?).

#15

You’re basically going through all cleric classes in the game :joy::joy::joy:

We can only help you with opinions or questions, but we can’t decide what to pick for you.

Diev 2/3 are both useful in any levels. Priest 2 is okay (but personally I’d prefer a rank 7 class at rank 7, rather than priest c2).

#16

Well, since we are going through all classes.

Useful features of each choice.

Priest1 : resurrection, monstrance (1) buff, some blessing.
Priest2 : ress, revive, monstrance, Mass heal, some more blessing.
Priest3 : ress, revive, monstrance, more mass heal, best blessing, and SPR-scaling stone skin.

Cler2 : sufficient heal tiles, stronger cure, safety zone attribute, divine might, fade utility
Cler3 : a lot of heal tiles, strongest cure, divine might.

Oracle1 : change, counterspell, (don’t use Arcane energy + melstis due to increases SP), Prophecy, resetting, forecast
Oracle2: only extra death sentence…
Oracle3: shop mainly, and a nuke&heal, plus moving damage nullification zone

Diev1/2/3: useful aura support, diev2/3 useful aura offense too.
Pal1/2/3: extra restoration (for animus?), Barrier at c3, Turn undead instant kill chance, resist elements
Monk1/2/3: splitting INT/STR/DEX/CON…
Bokor1/2/3: zombies and quick damage filler through hexfiggy, and mackangdal+melstis
Sadhu1/2/3: … Use Out of Body during melstis channel? And Possession. No great skills.
Pardoner1/2/3: sell scroll (low profit), discerning evil, increase magic defence, indulgentia cure debuff
Kabba1: Ein sof SP recovery after melstis, Revenged 7 fold (PvP)
Plague Doc: Status immunity, incineration (after zalciai/aukuras).
Druid1/2: sterea trofh immunity at druid2, druid1 just carnivory, telepath (PvP).

#17

I’m rather new to clerics so, sorry for all the questions :confounded:

Though with a c2 Krivis at rank 3 right now, I kinda made my build a little messy but still doable.

I think this is what I’ll take for now and I’ll edit it accordingly, thanks for all the help though guys, despite my constant questions with many classes :confounded:: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/j3mfk4pq8r/

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#18

I’d recommend statue of teleport vakarinae at lvl 1, since there’s a trick to it. If all players interact with the statue (at lvl 1), and wait before selecting a teleport location (stay in the map interface), you can teleport an infinite amount of players.
Edit skill explanation: Once you carve statue of vakarinae, players may interact to open the teleport worldmap (similar to normal warp statues). The ‘number of warps’ in the skill description will count the first warp you use (warp by selecting your destination on the teleport worldmap). Once the ‘warps’ are 0, the statue will disappear. Once a player stays inside the teleport worldmap without selecting a destination, another player may interact with the statue, and so on. If each party member has interacted and opened the teleport worldmap, you may all teleport - the statue will disappear after the first warp however your teleport-worldmap-interface will not disappear.

I’d recommend Carve World tree, it is a very strong CC. All mobs stop attacking. => vakarinae lvl 1, world tree 5*, and zemyna 9/10. You may add 1(+) carve attack to help you during leveling if you’d like.
Moreover I recommend 10/10 cure, and 5/10 safety zone (with attribute), however you may keep as is if you prefer more defenses.

It’s best to ask questions since you can’t re-rank in ToS.

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#19

Looks good.

Take away 5 points from zemyna and place it into Carve World Tree, it’s among the best support skills in the game :smile:

If you want to keep zemyna, you can take 4 points away from Vakarine and 1 from Zemyna.

I would also take one point off safety zone and max Divine Might.

And max Cure too, in exchange for safety zone.

EDIT:
Basically, everything @greyhiem said.

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#20

Ok, I’ll make some changes to those skills now then. Once again, thanks for the help guys! Glad I’m not going Pardoner now lol :grin:

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