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Krivis/Taoist combo + Sadhu

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

Hello guys! Could someone give me some thoughts and advices regards this build?

My idea with this is to have a Sadhu damage class combination (as I like the Sadhu class a lot). I know that PD is a good combination for this purpose (as PD plays for itself in almost any build), but I wanted to try something different.

It is basically Zaibas+Storm Calling with Sadhu for damage. Other reasons that lend me to Krivis (and following up with Taoist) are a good Daino level for parties, and Divine Stigma (which i dont know if it is very situational or not). Also Meltsis, if it’s still useful.

I know that is not a build for the meta, but I would also like to try. What you guys think?

#2

I think you’ll lack heals. So even if you have a better Daino, you won’t be able to res nor heal, while Daino can be scrolled. So, at least for this skill, I don’t really see the point ?

Zaibas + Storm Calling isn’t as good as it used to be, and Zaibas is buggy at the moment, so it’s not really worth it right now, I guess.
Divine Stigma can be very situational. You need to use it and then the monster needs to die rather fast, so it’s more like you need to know when to use it.
Krivis isn’t terrible, but in general I don’t think what it brings is worth losing extra Cleric skills, for example. Your Krivis won’t bring you great damages or support.
I wonder if Meltsis can increase your Transmit Prana though, so making it so you have it all the time (although if you take Diev 1 you’d only be without TP for 4 seconds, and it’s only 1 circle :confused: )

My Sadhu is a Taoist as well (not PD because I wanted my character to be centered around my Sadhu skills) and both are fine together. I’m just not sure what would your Krivis 3 bring.
It’s pretty much a unique build though, so I guess at least that would make it interesting/fun to play.

#3

Krivis C3 brings more damage, more utility and a high duration TP[75-80 seconds, depending on Divine Might or not], so that build is more than viable.
Heal can be easily compensated by using potions and getting some CON, Safety Zone isn’t really required since you got no Dievdirbys that requires the protection while carving his statues or Kabbalist to cast Merkabah.

On top of this, you also get Aukuras to reduce natural HP regeneration time and increase your chance to dodge physical attacks, Divine Stigma to boost STR and INT of you and your party members by a lot and Daino to increase the buff count.
This build goes incredibly well with a Chrono3Thauma3 that will appear at Rank 9 and any magic damage dealer, promoting full magic parties.

Zaibas 15 is a force yet to be acknowledged, it deals a lot of possible damage since it benefits from Transmit Prana a lot (19-20 hits= 38-40 hits of additional damage from TP) and has doubled damage during Storm Calling. It also was buffed to have faster damage ticking(0,15 secs/lightning), a boosted AoE capability (7 targets per lightning) and reduced CD time (20 seconds), so it’s a really good damage skill in combination with Sadhu and Taoist.

This is wrong. Your Krivis C3 brings great damage and great support. Divine Stigma is a buff that nearly noone has but that brings tons of extra matk and possible boost potential for your Thauma in party(we’re talking about 95-103 additional INT/STR, that’s about 230-250 more matk/patk and about 203 matk/patk for Swell Left Arm and 143 matk/patk for Swell Right Arm).

I.e. a boost of ~500-600 matk/patk in total, which is equal to 2-3 transcendence stages on your level 315 unique weapon (e.g. Skull Smasher)

Meanwhile, having another Cleric C2/C3 in the party will lessen the need for Heal,Safety Zone and Divine Might(e.g. C3>Pala3>Kabba3, full tank build to take the damage for the whole party).

Zaibas + Storm Calling brings great damage which is superior to your Possession and Astral Body Explosion [6200% Zaibas vs. 4700% Possession vs. ~3200% ABE; all numbers without attributes or TP]. The best thing is that you can more than double the boost time of Chapparition card effect with Melstis, meaning you can have up to 14 seconds of 30% additional matk every ~90 seconds (if you use the pot after TP and Melstis afterwards) solo or more often if you got that ThaumaChrono at hand for Pass.

#4

That’s for solo play. In a party, you would be useless in one the most basic cleric role: support.
Other clerics can deal great damages while not sacrificing the support side. Why would you choose to bring this one instead ?
Unless you want to make parties consisting half of clerics, which is fine by me, but it isn’t that common or seeked for.

Full magic parties aren’t usually a thing, because Archers and Swordsmen aren’t useless classes. And if he has a friend or find one who is Chrono 3 Thaum 3, it’s fine. If not, not really.
Zaibas isn’t dependable at the moment. It still fails to hit some enemies regularly and the enemies will randomly leave the aoes (I guess you’d also need a Cryo 3 or another CCer in the party to make sure your SC-Zaibas combo hits them every 24 seconds).
Good luck succeeding the DS-TP-Swell combo everytime…
The theory is great and all, but putting it into action won’t be as great: 1. Have a Thaum 3 friend you always play with, 2. Be sure you always find a team that is fine with having 2 clerics so the party actually has support, 3. Always perfectly pull off the DS, TP and Swelling buffing every minute.

And I’m sorry, but buffing 87 extra STR/INT isn’t being a “great support”. A great support is when you can resurrect, heal for real, increase damages by much more than raw +174 MATK/PATK, mitigate damages, etc., and all that much more easily.
If you want to say that in theory Krivis 3-Taoist has good damages, sure, but saying it’s a great support ? No way. Not compared to what some other cleric classes can bring, especially when they do it in a much smoother and easier way.

What you’re advising him isn’t “This build is great and always useful”, it’s “If you have an already pre-made party of people willing to take those specific builds I just told you, it’ll work”.
It’s a build full of gimmicks and it’d require a party to build and work completely around him and his skills. Just so that he can deal good enough damages. I’d be curious to see such a party, to be honest, that sounds fun. But I don’t really see it happening.
(Given that, of course, this build will be no problem on casual PvE content)

#5

How about thinking of this build as Elememe another pure magic dpser but also has support skills. More dps cleric in party is away good because they are not bitching.

#6

Thank you for all the replies!

So, yes, the idea is to have a magic damage dealer, not a support character. For this role, I already have one character and I’m aware that other class combinations can do far better healing than this one. I also know that is gimmick, I only wanted to check if it would be a viable build for damage purposes, not considering the ideal classes to have by my side (like the Thauma3 thing), but in an overall, If it would be a good damage class to have to maybe pull out some fun at Earth Tower too.

Anyone tried the Meltsis + Transmit Prana combination? Does it work?

#7

IMO if you want krivis/sadhu/tao build, go cleric2-krivis2-sadhu3-tao.

Cleric2 brings so much, better heal, utility (divine might/fade/safety atribute) and damage (healbomb and cure) . Losing krivis3 you will miss what? zaibas lvl15 and meltis, the latter being very situational.

Well, is your build and want to try, go for it.