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Krivis - Sadhu/Diev - Druid

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

I went Cleric > Cleric > Krivis so far and have a look at the options from here.

  • No1 — Cleric > Cleric > Krivis > Krivis > Sadhu > Druid > Druid (The Classic. Now with bad rep because of OOB nerf. It still gives you something to do while skills are on cooldown though.)

  • No2 — Cleric > Cleric > Krivis > Sadhu > Sadhu > Druid > Druid (The New. Sacrificing Zaibas semi AOE for Possession and therefore (hopefully) improved damaged with a little bit of CC. Having to channel the skill is a huge drawback though.)

  • No3 — Cleric > Cleric > Krivis > Krivis > Diev > Druid > Druid (The Group Support. -20% on cooldowns and slowing down mobs. Situational usefulness?)

  • No4 — Cleric > Cleric > Krivis > Krivis > Sadhu > Sadhu > Sadhu (Trusting in OOB. It will do damage, lots of it - with high INT! That’s the hope.)

  • No5 — Cleric > Cleric > Krivis > Krivis > Sadhu > Sadhu > Kabbalist (Outside the Box. Getting Krivis 2 and Sadhu 2 while still having a Rank 7 with some use?)

  • No6 — Cleric > Cleric > Krivis > Krivis > Sadhu > Sadhu > Druid (The questionable Tradeoff. Sacrificing invulnerability and a high damage skill for a lower one?)

  • No7 — Cleric > Cleric > Cleric > Krivis > Sadhu > Druid > Druid (The Indecisive. Heal tiles rock!)

Personal preference seems to play the biggest role here, but having no chance to give every build a test run makes it all revolve around blind trust.

The first three builds are my favorite, so far:

No1 — Might be less OP than in the past, but still well rounded
No2 — Tries to adjust to the times. (Anyone using it currently?)
No3 — Skips the issue and makes the best of a circle

#2

Actually I was hoping that someone who knows what they are talking about could comment… because I sure don’t. Just putting puzzle pieces together =p

#3

You can try go Krivis 3 > Druid 2 if you want high DPS.
Krivis 3 offers Divine Stigma level 10, what gives 78 int and 78 str. A very Strong party group that scales a lot with the maximun int and str your party members have.

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#4

Very good point, thank you. I’m a little bit worried about the cooldowns though while soloing - before you get to druid that is.

I’m level 66 now… and would have the current toolset until lvl 170+. I don’t know, on one hand it’s attractive in its simplicity… but on the other I’d wish for more ways to do some damage.

Is it worth sticking it out because you might spend much more time playing the game beyond level 170 than what leads up to it… that’s a question to consider. Hm.

#5

First point you need to know is:

What you want do to with your build?
You want to use it PVE oriented or PVP oriented?
Wanna support or tons of damage?

Guy, I’m doing Cleric 2 Diev 3. I’ll have only owls to attack flying mobs and this ■■■■ have almost 2min CD. I’m focusing in how good my build will become, not the difficulty in leveling it.
Hard work is necessary for a good future build xD

#6

What are you aiming for once the build is done?

I’m just interested in PVE and prefer a good amount of damage for this char, as I have others already that are very support based.

Nevertheless I believe Cleric 2 to be important, so I was trying to figure out the best PVE high damage combination that works with it and fits my playstyle :slight_smile:

#7

Well, I’ll do C2 Diev 3 Some ■■■■ for C6 and Plague Doctor Int focused char.

Is based in a support class PVE/PVP oriented.

Plague Doctor is too Strong to refuse to use it in supportive build. Diev 3 give 18s immortality. IT’S A LOT OF TIME. REALLY. And Cleric 2 to Divine Might lvl 5 and Heal 10.
This combo can do damage. It’s not so much damage like others combinations, but still it is a considerable damage.

#8

So far the dievdoctor build is the only cleric build Ive seen and heard to solo world bosses and get cubes. Correct me if Im wrong. (That means high dps).
@ak111

#9

Well yeah, but with a game this new it doesn’t say much yet. In a couple months the builds might have “established” themselves and we know through hearing things which one’s are performing better or worse. Right now it could just be a skilled person with the right equipment.

Then there is the situational component of course. Having high DPS for a world boss doesn’t necessarily equal high DPS for enjoyable solo play.

After watching some videos I’ve got a feel for what the Druid brings to the table, haven’t seen something for Sadhu yet though.

Whether Kriv 3 or Diev 1 does more damage certainly depends on the situation. I can’t do the math on how long a mob has to live for Diev to do better, but since I am not trying too hard for reaching a specific thing it only matters to the degree of what the play experience feels like.

Do you want to carve a statue every now and then to slow down mobs and have shorter cooldowns for yourself and the team, or get more direct damage with extra Int/Str and higher Zaibas?

It’s a tough one because the skillset in the many hours of playing will either be balanced (for you subjectively) or lack somehow - which then makes the game a chore.

I’d rather have balance (fun) with less damage than “grinding” for some DPS ideal ^^ That is not to say the highest goal shouldn’t be optimization… it can just look differently.

#10

Really? The Owl statues got knocked back easy. And if someone move the boss, we are completely ■■■■■■ because we can’t move the Owls

#11

I realized that he might be talking about a different build altogether, not mentioned here… but it got a lot of attention on the forum.

Could you please clarify, @Jonnu?

#12

Not taking PD at rank 7 is not a good idea. Healing factor and blood letting is such a good skill that one must have.

#13

I meant the clerci2/diev3/druid/PD build.

And yes I just realized that the krivis build may also get higher dps on bosses easier since they dont have to deal with the statues. (They can “move” their aoes cause they last less time and have shorter CD.) I just dont know how the zaibas damage is in comparison to owl damage and carve attack in practice (gotta take in account that the owl isnt the only diev skill, also carve attack deals great damage).

Now we just need someone to make a high lvl krivdoctor and show us how it is.

@Altherkan Yeah thats true and if it happens it can easily screw the whole fight, BUT not always. Depending on how much time the boss already spent under the owl damage.

And once youre at PD the owl statues are a great source of damage, but not like 90% of your damage anyways. Owls only feel like that cause when youre going through diev2/3 you dont have much to play with.

#14

only if you want to be support-like and PVP based. Other classes offers other things for others situations. PD gonna be nerfed, just wait for it. It’s too strong.

@Jonnu well, you said my build, just C6 that is not a full decision.

And carve is not str-based? How the damage is high for an int-based?

#15

If you’re not dead set on Sadhu, 1 or 2 circles of Bokor can be great. I’m Cleric>Krivis>Krivis>Bokor right now, and Hex->Effigy fills the gap between cooldowns very well. I only notice Hex’s CD when I screw up the targetting or if the enemy resists (not frequent).
Bokor should also synergize well with Plague Doctor if you end up picking it later on. Pandemic into Effigy seems great in videos.

Now, between the builds you mentioned… I think I’d pick No2. I regret going C2 with Krivis a bit, and Possession looks awesome. Any chance it can be channeled by the body while you attack with the spirit? That would seal the deal for me.

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#16

is sadhu 3 worth getting? I’m planning c1-kriv2-diev1-sadhu2-druid/pd
since my other friend is a full support already

#17

The damage is really good even with full INT. Check @Veritas guide on the forums! He shows the damage on a int dievdoctor. Its really noticeable.

PD got nerfed already in korea but it was mostly just about bloodletting which indeed was the most OP part about it. I might be wrong but I dont remember the other changes. So a pvp instead of pve nerf.

Also with different PDs incinerations cancelling each other out makes PD non-op in pve. In the future no PD will be there alone spamming his incineration.

#18

Thank you for the suggestion, but both Bokor and Plague Doctor just don’t fit into my perspective… that is to say I cannot identify with them. In terms of skills they might be really good though.

I don’t think that you can channel Possession while OOB. After a good bit of thought I’m wondering whether just to go Krivis 3 > Druid 2 to maximize the damage of a small number of skills instead of spreading out and having more buttons to press.

#19

The rumor is that the Int boost of Sadhu 3 will make the OOB damage very good.

#20

50% plus damage and it’s not 100% time on and you will never use all the 60s of the buff after changing area or getting knocked out of your spirit form. Only good in theorycraft.