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Krivis need more Love

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#1

What is Krivis?
Krivis is a “priest” in Romuva Religion.

A symbol for Austras Koks (world tree), yes this is a same symbol as Krivis in Tree of Savior obviously.

Jonas Trinkūnas, is a Krivis, a person who revive Romuva religion, born in Klaipėda 1939, and died in 2014.

What is Romuva?
Romuva is a old religion, or myth if you may say, Many Romuva’s deity you can find the TOS such as
Dievas, the supreme or leader of the gods.
Aušrinė, the Morning Star, a goddess, a daughter of the Dievas
Gabija, the foster of the Holy Fire, a goddess, a daughter of Dievas
Laima, goddess of Fate and pregnant women.
Saulė, the Sun Goddess (Surya in Vedic religion).
Vakarinė, goddess of the Evening Star.
Žemyna, goddess, the deified soil
and many more

And so you see, in TOS, Krivis skill evolve based on this.
one of the Krivis Ritual is Aukuras.

Aukuras is a fire altar, participant will wash their hand and ritual hymns Daina, and made an offering.
many type of Dainos that literally means Songs. Zaibas mean Lightning, and Melstis mean Pray.

So you see, Tree of Savior is based on Romuva myth, but why Krivis is lack of love?
and now you cant use pot while casting Melstis.
If compared to Priest, Krivis is very weak buffer, even it is support class.

Aukuras recover HP very slow, with 120s CD
compared Mass Heal and Revive, with 30s and 120s CD
Suggestion, as the real Aukuras ritual, where people made offering, when Krivis cast Aukuras, other party member can click on the aukuras for 2sec, they receive additional buff, like extra 5% hp last for 30s.

Zalciai both buff and debuff, its ok, but
compared to Monstrance which is also buff and debuff, Monstrance buff applied even you not inside the circle, unlike Zalcai
Suggestion, Zalciai buff all party member even not in the circle. same as Priest’s Monstrance

Daino, as you can see, there are lot of Daino,
Suggestion, Krivis can learn Attribute, addition effect when use Daino depend on party leader’s class, example party leader is Swordman, when Krivis cast a Daino, all party member also receive 5% str/con, If archer then 5% dex, if cleric, 5% str/int. if wizard, 5% int/spr. with this also, Krivis get better compared to other people who just use Scroll for Daino. because of the attribute.

Divine Stigma, Cd is longer than duration, need to learn attribute to increase duration, sadly DS can’t always “on” (recast immediately once the effect gone) some mistake you can even miss DS and had to wait for another 30s, DS while boss or PVP is worst. Unlike most Priest Buff, Blessing, Sacrament, Aspersion they can always “on”
Suggestion, Increase Duration

the only better Krivis, get attack skill at C1, while Priest at C3, and Priest had too many good buff that they can learn all, while Krivis had very few and worst than Priest’s. And priest need to pay a tiny amount of silver to buy those buff mats.

not asking for Krivis to overpower Priest, but at least made it same or at least a lil closer par as Priest in term of support and buffing, since they both C2 class.

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#2

Krivis isn’t actually that bad. I even consider getting it over Chaplain because of Daino and Crit buff.

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#3

I’d have liked to explore the possibility of Krivis if it hadn’t been for Chaplain having the prerequisite of being Priest C3. And obviously after Chaplain there are more powerful jobs unlocked by that point…

#4

but, Daino can be scrolled, lot of people sell in the market and its cheap.
Daino Scroll had no different as real Daino. thus as my suggestion, some good attribute for Daino, so Krivis real Daino is better than Daino scroll. not overpowered just a little bit better. and even closer to the real Krivis in real World, there not only 1 type Daino.

and if you compare why people pick Krivis, and why people pick Priest, the list on Priest can go on longer.

Just need more balance between those class.

isnt moonstrance better? increase DEX = more crit rate, more avoid,
unless you want Crit atk, and not Crit rate

#5

The trick is to first get Priest C3 and then Krivis. :slight_smile:

Then you have Blessing, Sacrament, Aspersion, Stone Skin, Revive, Monstrance and Zalciai. That’s 7 buffs you want to keep active. And then Daino so that these buffs don’t overwrite other buffs.

Monstrance gives +30% DEX btw, I think if you go SPR build then Zalciai is actually better, but it doesn’t really matter since you will stack both on each other.

Krivis C1 is more of a buffer-boost class, not so much a stand-alone buffer.

#6

Krivis C2 isn’t as bad as people think. Aukuras starts out slow, but it scales much better with levels as the Recovery time within the aura ends up cut. 10/10 is decent, and 15/15 actually becomes free gridless healing as long as you play it smartly. It’s also technically an attackable totem, and can aggro. Problem is it’s cooldown are pretty high. Daino is Daino, not much can be said about it. Good for everyone. Divine Stigma could be better, but it’s solid and does add slight DPS onto everyone.

@duncangocan Zalciai scales better when it comes to damage and actually never falls off. Monstrance gives everyone 30% more Dex, but Zalciai drops the Crit Resistance of monsters making crits much easier to come out of monsters with lower Crit rate. Archers and Swordies will love you more.

Meltsis though is pretty meh of a skill. Honestly imo the only real reason people like Priests are for three skills: Ressurection, Revive, and Stoneskin. Everything else could be achieved elsewhere, even Sacrament. Priests are sought after because mitigation and *being the only class that can revive people.

  • A Chronomancer could using Backmasking theoretically.
#7

@duncangocan I’m impressed with your knowledge about that. Can you also find anything about Vibora? Dalia and Jurate are already taken care of and Lada never really counted to start with.

I think it had more to do with either support classes, potion saving, or bragging rights about the hidden class.

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#9

For krivis to be useful, Pardoner scroll needs to be nerfed or even removed from game

Is that really a problem? My impression is that most players don’t scroll up properly so without Daino you will always remove buffs with your own buffs.

I mean yeah Aspersion and Sacrament also can be scrolled but yet there are so many people who recommend getting or even maxing it.

#10

Also, are Daino scrolls actually a thing? Because I have yet to see a single scroll store selling it. It’s always Aspersion / Blessing / Sacrament on my server.

#11

those are not the same thing.
the pardoner shops don’t sell scrolls, they sell buffs.
“scrolls” are literally that - actual magic scrolls that you can carry around and anyone can use it.

if you want to find a Daino scroll, you need to look in the marketplace.

although i have to admit… they don’t seem very common there either.

#12

Players don’t “Scroll up properly” because priest c3 is the only build in the game that causes a need for daino. It is entirely unrealistic to feel that everyone else should bring a means to deal with buff wiping when the priest c3/chaplain is the one causing the problem.

I personally think things need to change so cleric build options aren’t so claustrophobic.
-The Buff limit should go as it only applies to priest plus it is making the buff system super convoluted.
-Having no buff limit allows daino to be reworked into something that doesn’t apply to just priest.
-Melstis needs to be more practical, I am thinking something like pardoners Discerning evil but for allied buffs.
-The Safety zone attribute needs to not provide 10 skill levels worth of the ability. It is the real reason why c2 cleric is recommended on every cleric build.
-Pardoner should be completely revamped but at the very minimum simony should be gutted and if spell shop is to stay it needs to not include attributes and have more than just priest abilities.
-Chaplain needs to not be c4 priest and instead be a standalone class.

I also think Paladin should be rank 2, so krivis or priest would have to get moved back. This is because there isn’t any real str build options up to rank 4 which makes building into monk or paladin really odd. On top of this most of the best cleric support options are flooded into ranks 1-3. I believe this was originally due to the class system preventing you from going back and selecting things from previous ranks, effectively preventing you from doing things like cleric c2 - priest c3. However that system is gone and I feel that the cleric build options are suffering because of it. Moving one of the multiple support options back changes little, but moving paladin forward opens up way more viable options for the class.

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#13

its just power of google and wikipedia, the keyword is Romuva and Lithuanian Myth.
Lada (Lado) – the great goddess, Rasos festival is dedicated to her.
Rasos festival is on 24th june. yeah few more days.

List of all figures in the Myth, but can’t find anything about Vibora.

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#14

Liked for boobies on wiki

#15

I stand corrected, Lada is a legitimate Baltic goddess. Time to edit the wiki. But now I don’t really know what she is a goddess of, only as “great goddess” but of what?

I’d have freaked out if they started adding others gods from different pantheons. That’s just not right. I am also freaking out about Vibora. If she’s a made-up un-Baltic goddess I’d scream.

#16

yes she is, but also got mention in Romuva, as Lithuania is one of Baltic counties.

Vibora, a.k.a Vaivora
In other myths, Aušrinė is depicted as a daughter and servant of Saulė. Aušrinė lights the fire for Saulė and makes her ready for another day’s journey across the sky. Vakarinė (the evening star) makes the bed for Saulė in the evening. In the Lithuanian mythology, Saulė was mother of other planets: Indraja (Jupiter), Sėlija (Saturn), Žiezdrė (Mars), Vaivora (Mercury).

Found about Vaivora in this page.

#17

My prayers are answered! Best of all, no outside deity! runs to the wiki and starts articles like a loon

#18

In order for monstrance to be effective, your party member must be high DEX. Zalcial decrease crit resistance, which works regardless.

Aurukas works like paladin aura, it’s 1 click and free.

Daino is needed by most high level parties right now. It’s kinda weird but it works right now

I can agree on a buff for divine stigma though, this one doesn’t work on bosses

#19

yeah, the duration the cooldown and the condition to apply this skill, make it worthless. need to increase duration like sacrament.

#20

Exactly my point! That’s why a Priest getting Krivis for Daino is such a good thing.

-The Buff limit should go as it only applies to priest plus it is making the buff system super convoluted.
-Having no buff limit allows daino to be reworked into something that doesn’t apply to just priest.

I kinda like the buff limit system and how it makes Daino so great. It also doesn’t only apply to priest, it applies to the whole party setup. Other classes can buff too.

-The Safety zone attribute needs to not provide 10 skill levels worth of
the ability. It is the real reason why c2 cleric is recommended on
every cleric build.

But that’s a good thing! It’s a strong reason to pick Cleric C2, so it makes it viable to take even as 6th rank.

-Pardoner should be completely revamped but at the very minimum simony
should be gutted and if spell shop is to stay it needs to not include
attributes and have more than just priest abilities.

I agree on that part, it should be reworked just not sure how. Maybe allow Pardoner/Scroll buffs to stack with Cleric buffs rather than overwrite them.

-Chaplain needs to not be c4 priest and instead be a standalone class.

Not really necessarily. It depends strongly on Priest C3 and would just be useless without it anyway.