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Just notice, Steam review just turn from "Mixed" to "Mostly positive"

well just in case u guys din get what i said… i did not say do not complain do not doom post wtv you call it… heck i always complain bout imc lol. i just dont go to their game page to give reviews and stuff. but everytime people ask me hows the game i say… love the game, hate the developer… simple.

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Liking them or not, the developers still bring content to the game.

Disgressing now: the way stats, gears and skills were developed were not meant for pvp, the game would need a skill overhaul or have most of them tweaked to work differently in pvp in order for it to be balanced…but let’s be real now, no game has ever reached the utopia of balancement…there’s always something that is considered cheesy.

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nvr really cared for PVP. PVE itself is full of issues i dont think we need to be reminded bout that anymore its like bread and butter of playing tos.

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PVE itself is full of issues

Could you please list the issues for me? I want to know if I may be missing something.

Sad…trying to argue about how the facts are displayed instead of addressing the facts

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@haukinhue

Facts are fine with me.
I haven’t argued against them at all, I’m with ya with all the complaints.

That will never make how they are displayed any less important.

You say you’re afraid of losing queue mates but you have no problem with people saying that the game is dying, hence, making people who are slightly interested quit prematurely.

People quit when they read “the game is dying” since investing time on a dying game in itself is discouraging.

It’s not too hard to understand, lol,

^^^^All true

Could use better wording? Yes

Were you maybe not told that you can care about more than 1 aspect of criticism at the same time?

Oh? Pve has no issues for u? You must be playing a different game. sadhu desync issue has been around since the dawn of time, party queue gets stuck very often when loading in. Class imbalance is not only affecting pvp but pve as well. Mouse mode is beautiful, skills and stats both have bad scaling. Login error when logging out… There are more. We all want tos to be great, but dont sugarcoat it. I do see some improvements very very slowly and responses to bugs very very slowly. But the game needs work. Dont come and tell me tos pve is perfect.

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Oh? Pve has no issues for u?

Please read, I asked you to list them just to be sure that you have more things in mind than myself, not that I consider the pve perfect ~_~.

That’s one of the biggest issues in this community, people do not read throughfully and assume things that didn’t happen.

Read again, I didn’t say I am afraid of losing queues. Nothing wrong with stating ‘game is dying’ fact either because queues are peak-hour-only now.

We must state facts and not try to cover up problems and trick people into thinking otherwise.

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Lets be real here, u were being sarcastic. Or else you havent been playing if you didnt know that there were issues with pve. Pvp is bad right now but i can live with it. The games not meant for pvp. You can progress through the entire game without a single match in pvp but u cant skip pve.

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Was I now? It seems to be impossible to ask a question or a favor without being considered sarcasm, I guess the hue got over your head too.

I hope you’re not directing this at me. Not everyone who wants to be able to queue is a freeloader. Not everyone who buys tp must buy it like a whale

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Consider me the one who misunderstood then, you still got your answer. I gave you a list of things im unhappy with. I cant think of everything at once.

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This game has more mods than Skyrim :slight_smile:.

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I see, lol, you could’ve quoted that to not make you look like the one afraid, but in total fairness to you it was incredibly vague.

No one said there’s anything wrong with saying that the game is dying or criticizing it. You seem to be reading whatever lets you disagree to keep arguing.

If having the last word lets you sleep at night by all means continue, I wouldn’t want to take that from you.

Very well, I did.

Class imbalance is not only affecting pvp but pve as well.

Buffs come here and there, the same goes for nerfs.

The next buff to com on iToS is for Highlander, which is currently overshadowed by Barbarian…totally looking forward to it :slight_smile:
Unfortunately there’s nothing else to do about this aside from giving feedback and waiting…

Mouse mode is beautiful

Are we perhaps talking about what specifically? The only things that come to my mind are that not all NPCs can be dialogued using the mode and that the targetting is not as responsive as it should (Skills not propertly going for the targetted monster if you hover the cursor over the monster way too fast)

skills and stats both have bad scaling.

Same as the class imbalance, changes do occur, by checking the server timeline you’ll see that some classes became viable after some skills changes, for example:

Rodelero became a solid and strong class after most of its skills getting bigger hit box and increased damage on shooting star and shield bash.

Hunter stopped being a bag of feces with a more responsive companion AI, Coursing ending after the target dies, Retrieve going for the targeted monster…

The list goes on.

Login error when logging out…

This error just came back, and it apparently is related to the server timing out the moment you try to log out…similar to when you cast a skill, nothing happens and you get stuck in place.

with the ridiculous amount of hp world bosses have i kinda have to agree even though my main is a lancer :smiley:

my bad, i reread, u didnt use the exact word.

but your statement implies something along the line

refer

which, loosely translate to threads like “TOS is Dying, huehuehue”


well… i do agree that is the proper way of doing things, like u say, giving constructive criticism etc

then again, whether its writing wall of text of suggestions or making childish threads, its still our genuine/honest feedback towards the game/services.

why are u complaining about me complaining anyway?
why are u crying about me crying about the game anyway?

if u suggest we naysayer should keep it to ourself, how about you take your own meds and keep your opinion about us, to yourself.


nah… my feedback/naysaying/pessimist is the best contributions IMC could get from me.

how about they start providing better service

even i wouldnt complain if theres nothing broken


huehuehue

sue me plz

we purposely make anyone defending IMC wear the whiteknight title.


investing time in a game the developer/publisher (IMC) themselves dont give enough attention, this is discouraging.

“the game is dying” thread? it doesnt do any damage if its not actually happening in game.

people get discouraged because everything the doomposting thread said is true.


tldr

obligatory huehuehue~

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That sums it up. IMC only milks us as cash cows with no intention of providing a stable game. Who defends that deserves negative titles and isolation.

huehue

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I didn’t get where is the negativity in being a whiteknight.

Some times we need close our mouth(or hold our fingers) to no tell useless things.