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[ISSUE RESOLVED] Schwarzer Reiter, "High mobility" crippled archer

Right, that’s more or less what it’s for, mobility and damage control. Single target Falconer damage is terrible, yes, but that’s not why you should have taken Falconer, the one circle is primarily taken for Circling which is an excellent compliment to Musketeer or Cannoneer (and benefits everyone in the party.)

The primary issue is there’s no catch-all “this is nice to have no matter what” skill in Schwarzer Reiter because they are not really compatible with any other classes this late in the archer tree thanks to both a mounting requirement and a weapon requirement. While a circle 1 dip into Falconer grants you a skill that is guaranteed to be great in every party (albeit with a sorta painful uptime) and a skill that is utility, there’s not really any such thing as a 1 circle dip into SR. That wouldn’t be an issue, except that 2 circles of SR is horrible compared to the other R7 options.

IMC is going what they did to R6 on CBT, R6 had so much damage during the CBT, once they released R7, they nerfed them all (decreasing base/scaling damage, moved some really good skills to C2, etc) and made the R7 classes godlike. Once R8 arrives they’ll possibly nerf musketeer and cannoneer.

I’m a Hunter 3 Cannoneer and I know how painful it is.

Yea they need to work on the mount bug and charging these stationary skills (multishot concentrated fire etc) while moving would help a bit as well. The main thing if finding a reason to invest into SR either needs to complement a rank 8, have a ridiculous Rank3 or hackapell is amazing. And with dragoons being able to use skills while mounted we are way behind.

Falcon is for circling that’s it. Hanging shot is nice because your an archer and dodging attacks for 14-17 seconds while other stuff is on cooldown is pretty good. especially if your skill based and not a sustained DPS.

It was before they fixed musketeer. Now falconer is useless and there is no any fantastic synergy. People don’t play falconers at al, there is no even one single thread here about.

Falconer isn’t useless by any means, circling is still fantastic for any pull that includes medium and large-class mobs. It doesn’t have insane synergy with snipe any more but it’s still the best 1 circle dip for PVE in the Archer tree. On my SR there were people with 1 circle of Falconer everywhere so I’m not sure what caused it to be different on your server.

As of 5/12/2016 Schwarzer Reiter is currently bugged and you can’t learn attributes. So umm if your not already one tough ■■■■ till they fix it as you can’t use any of your skills period when you job change.

Bump

Fix or release hackapell. I want mount and not to be gimped

For those unaware, Schwarzer Reiter has received several major buffs as of the R8 patch including a complete overhaul of the Limacon ability, as well as significant changes to Caracole by way of an attribute.

In short, these issues have actually been fixed. Schwarzer Reiter is significantly closer to the “mobile archer” concept it originally was designed around, and in the current game is a staple of many ET groups thanks to the Retreat Shot skill dealing “blunt” missile damage, and thus being massively amplified by wizard’s Lethargy. Several fixes for Retreat Shot have also come down as well addressing the gimmicky issues of attacking while moving (this was removed completely) and it doesn’t seem to cancel itself nearly as often any more.

In short, we’re saved. Well done, IMC, keep it up.

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