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Is there sth wrong with market system?

It keeps lower the maximun price. The big griba bamboo hat that can bo sold over 5 k now drop to 800. Other things too the maximum price is lower. Is anyone face this problem or it’s just me?

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I think it’s because prices of items are decreasing at a very fast rate & more and more same items are being sold at cheaper & cheaper prices (due to the MASSIVE bots farming 24/7) -> max prices are lowered too?
I used too see someone listed to sell 400-500 pag cloths at once in the market (I killed the pag monsters for over 1 hour and got like… 2-3 pag cloths, so you get the idea here)

the maximum price is set at 8000 yesterday, today is 800. I don’t think selling 500 item could do that. Moreover, I did sell like 100 of them, so they should balance it out to around 2000-3000 not 800. :’(

Usually the average sell price doesn’t change much once it’s set, e.g. Golden Falchion Recipe’s max price is 29000 silver for several weeks even though you could easily sell it more expensive and it instantly sells at 29000 all the time. It only increases the price range by like 10 silver each sale.

But sometimes after a maintenance a price gets reset because it was reported and then the first 100 something sales determine the new price. For example we had the problem that gold sellers pushed Dilgele value to 19000~500000 but the after one maintenance it was reset and we quickly sold it for 800 silver before gold sellers could do it and now the price range is at 200~8000.

i think its just the massive amounts of items in AH
being sold. bots farm a lot of every god damn item
in game and that pretty much ruins the prices.

Its the market system being faulty. That’s been a problem from the start.
Perhaps the new reporting system helps a bit with the items that are already listed at prices like that.

But do you report an item for price fixing if there arent any on the market, which will be the case with most items that have a maximum far below their worth.

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Just an example that caught my attention in Silute SA server, Lizardman bones were always arround 4/5k, yesterday I saw them in the market at 300 silver each, and the seller was offering 400+ lizardman bones, not only that, there were a few other listings at the same prices. I’ve noticed the same happening with other popular materials. All I have to say, something smells fishy here, it’s kind of obvious that it is not just normal prices fluctuations. Of course, I reported those sellers.

Right now:

It couldn’t be more obvious. Bots are ruining the market.

IMC should look what’s going on in the market, it’s ruining the experience of farming to get better gear for legit players.

Lizardman bones are 100s in Orsha and same goes with stoulet hearts etc. Many items are reduced to lowest prices in the market.

Orsha must be full of bots, then.

IMC don’t know how to ban the bot i guess :’(

Every server is full of bots, but Orsha has too few players to buy bots stuff off the market, so price dropped. The bots to players ratio is too high there lol.

Aren’t Lizardman Bones a fairly common drop? Why would they be worth 4k?

Also, this is just how the free market work. So there is this item let’s say it’s worth 1000 silver on average.

Now someone wants to sell it but sees it is not offered on the market at all, so he thinks, hey let’s just put 4000 silver as price.

If a person needs it for a recipe or collection, he will search the market and see the cheapest one offered is 4000 silver. Because “4000 silver is cheap for a collection item” or because he thinks it’s worth it for the recipe, he might even pay 4000 silver for it.

But now someone else comes with many bones and thinks “Lol? 4000 silver way too much, I rather sell mine fast than wait forever.” and then he puts the average price of 1000 silver in.

Now other players will want to sell their loot too, if they have many they will always put their price so it’s cheaper than the cheapest offer. If the cheapest offer was 4000 silver, they might put 3900, but if the cheapest offer is 1000 silver, they put 990. They don’t want to invest a long time investigating price fluctuations before putting their item on the market.

So slowly the price will drop further 980, 970, 960, 950, 940, this continues until someone buys up all the cheap offers after which the price rises again.

This doesn’t only happen with botted items. Beetleback Recipe for example behaves also like that. Sometimes you can easily sell it for 10000 silver, because there are no other offers and sometimes you can’t even get rid of it for 1500 silver, because someone else will put it even cheaper and nobody really wants to buy it.

Anyway, why dont they(IMC) make us see who is selling items on market? It would be easier to insta report cuz person called “fshdgd” would seem suspicious.

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Also, being called “fshdgd” is not a bannable offense. You can’t just ban someone because he has such a name and sells items cheap.

Take a look at this screenshot, from right now, Silute server:

Do you think it’s normal to see one single player selling 1800+ lizardman bones? Do you know how much time it takes to farm only 100 of them? It’s common sense, what you see in the screenshot are just bots.