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Is there a wipe? The Japanese version, certainly does

Lots of games don’t wipe when going from CBT to CBT2 for example. But as we can see ToS does.

I have been in many betas and i have NEVER seen a game not wipe after OBT. What game were you on that didn’t and are you sure it wasn’t a steam early access thing because that’s not the same as OBT?

While that’s usually true there as been some CBT that din’t have wipes like FFXIV. The game went CBT > Early access > Rental.

Aerial Games normally doesn’t wipe after obt, they go straight into full release. 3 examples from Aerial Games would be Grand Fantasia, Eden Eternal, and Aura Kingdom. Speaking from personal experience, Aerial didn’t wipe those games after obt.

X Legends out of Taiwan developed those games and I do believe their gamesite don’t get wiped after obt. Could be just a thing they do.

All games i have not heard of is Aerial a smaller publisher/developer? Because i did betas from games such as ragnarok, aion, WoW, lineage 2, and more and i have never seen this from any of them.

Or maybe it has to do with the game genre are all of those mmorpgs?

You can say its “Normal” but there’s still a possibility they are going to keep the character data.

@thebloodyaugust it may just be a more recent practice (the games you list seem a bit older), all of the obt’s i’ve done recently have had kept progress – but really they’re usually only like 2 or 3 days and then it goes live… so idk what purpose it serves other than the title obt gives them an excuse for when problems arise as they get used to the influx of players…??

@ Thread – Considering most of us didn’t make it very far in the game I don’t think it would be a bad idea for them to not wipe between the international cbt’s, but please do not be surprised if all data from the cbt was wiped though. It’s definitely not unheard of – Especially if cbt’s are being wiped in the other regions.

dude check

#all the new mmo out there

there all in CBT phase

and WILL ALL WIPE data

its standard practice.

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There is a possibility that I’ll die right after writing this post. Anything is possible but me dying after writing this post is as likely to happen as the ToS CBT characters being transferred to OBT/Full Release.

Developers don’t even have to mention something like this because it’s normally implied when you hear that the game is in Closed Beta Testing.

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http://www.aeriagames.com/

I personally stopped playing their games because they all become pay 2 win real quick but Aeria Games is not a small publisher by any means. If it means anything, they currently have Elsword, Ragnarok 2, Digimon Masters Online, and Echo of Soul along with many other titles and have millions of players online. Yes, they are the publisher that has RO2.

Well every game that I played/followed went from obt straight into full release so we just have different experiences eh.

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CBT is the main heavy testing, with the amount of content being added and removed during each test the testers HAVE to start from scratch. You can’t really use data from one CBT version if the next has skills or classes moved around in the game progression. For a hypothetical example, why would you have a C1 archer C3 QS if they decide to change QS and make it third circle instead of second?

CBT change so much content of the games between testing phases that it’s impractical for them to save the data to continue use. Also CBT is for testing issues and bugs with the game, not “playing” the game it’s the second of third testing states.
Alpha testing; where the game is tried over and over with producer tools to assist in making sure the game is in a playable state. Data is never saved between sessions as the people taking part can just ‘create’ the items and exp to test the content.
Closed Beta testing; where things are hunted down and tested in a larger environment because nobody is perfect and online games are so big that it’s very unlikely a small group would find most issues. Due to the nature of how drastic a game can change between CBT periods. See recently with how the game completely changed how you can pick a class when you advance a circle to include backtracking. 90% of the tests are with advanced EXP rates to get to the content being tested. Data can but rarely be saved between sessions.
Open Beta testing; the game is almost ready for release, Usually newbie area content and stress test. Most online games usually do not wipe after this stage any more, because at this point very little outside minor balance tweeks occur and fixing of game-breaking bugs that have slipped through. There is only one open beta stage, and it is almost always followed with release or cancellation.

Honestly if a game is good enough, you shouldn’t care about data being wiped until AFTER it’s released (A few games have had all their data wiped post-release but that is for a variety of different issues.)
International CBT have always been kinda shoddy and unneeded. All they need is an OBT to see if it works and the translation isn’t bugged and then go into release, IMC have been very generous letting other regions test the game this far from release.

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What they should do?
It’s a CBT , obviously they will wipe it!

CBT mean Close Beta Test. It’s just a test.

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from all the cbt’s i’ve participated in they always wiped after cbt going into obt

progress will always be kept going from cbt1 ,2 ,3 and only wipe after they announce obt

but in my personal opinion a game that launches as an obt shouldnt be charging people money or have an item mall open

if they start obt off with item mall i consider that full release

FFXIV wipes. pls dont speak if you dont know. if not wipe i already start with lvl 20 pug in cbt

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You’ll be annoyed.
It does.

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If you really want evidence, then look at your original post. After that, take a look at the Korean betas. So long as it’s ‘Closed Beta’, the character data will be wiped.

They have no reason not to do the same with the International version as well. If that breaks your heart, then too bad.

Probably why they were blocked out of my mind from all the trauma they caused me lol.

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lol FFXIV wipes , if you dont know …stop with bs :smirk:

every Good MMO and Publisher will wipe all character data in cbt

I cant speak for the original ff14 beta but i can confirm that CBT for ff14 reborn did wipe. He maybe blending the CBT and early access period in his mind, because all testers were given a ~3 day head start.

Ragnarok was wiped for a big reason after obt. Cheating and a massive case of it. That is the reason for pretty much any obt wipe even if they give no reason.