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Is Swordsman the worst PVP class?

wow ur bad rip in peace bro

In Indonesia server now only 3 builds who can reach top 10 in 2v2

  1. Wizard = Warlock build (now can only reach rank 5 or worst)
  2. Archer = Hunter build (almost top 5 every weeks)
  3. Cleric = Bokor build (almost top 5 every weeks, many of them rank 1)

Swordman never on the list. I can tell this game has a weird concept for mmorpg… There’s should be a better update for this

Swordsmen shine on 2v2 though.

Nope, swordman in 2v2 get owned by hunter/bokor/fletcher

Trot+rush is much faster than hunter’s pet, unless that hunter has zoomy so he can predict where cata will be coming from. Bokor get shutdown by revisan dealing only 1k below per tick. EW, DP, bash can KD bokor so he cant use his curse or something. Just use impale if that bokor used mackangdal and safety wall. There is no way fletcher can win against pvp build cata.

Rofl to this…:joy:…once your hit with bleed your basically dead…and so as everyone who is hit with it…even I have 40k hp…still always die…only you can do is try to take fletcher with you…and that is 50/50…speciallly if you pumped con instead of dex…:joy:

I was rank 2 though in 2v2. If you cant kill fletcher doesnt mean others cant do it. Also if you have 40k HP as swordsman its only natural you lose most of the time XDD because it just means you lack proper stats to compliment other problems you can encounter on TBL.

:joy::joy::grin::joy:

Food for thought, bleeding scales with STR. If you pump too much con that STR will hit you hard so much. If that Fletcher can hit that hard it means that fletcher is suffering from acute accuracy syndrome. So what will you do if that Fletcher has very low accuracy? Go figure. The most ROLF part is that you were unaware how youre losing and yet you have the guts to laugh out others who can kill them. Cant believe im teaching basic logic in PVP.

I can kill fletchers fine if I hit em first…they die easily…base on your statement you make it like fletchers are nothing in tbl and you just kill em like they dont give a fight and fletchers cant kill you…so you mean archers miss on you?you said cata pvp…so of course you need con…my 40k is because of my set and swash buck…

Ranking is trash anyways…I gained 1200 of those by just winning 5 out of 5 matches everyday…and I did not even ranked… even top 1 is only 1250…lol…shop point is what I only need…I try to lose matches to go back to 1000 range coz matches are fasteršŸ¤—

I’m probably one of the best fletchers on both Orsha and Klai and that’s only because all the fletchers quit cause the class isn’t that great anymore ever since the boss cd was introduced.

Catas can own me if I’m not careful. Against good catas, even if I bleed them, they will kill me before they die from the ticks. Also, in team pvp, a cata with ausrine will own me 100% of the time. Go figure.

hits fast hits hard but has paper mache hp against you and now undamagable

Well played invulnerable blitzers are mmo pvp nightmares, hold/disable CCs till buff runs out are the only way to survive that.

Yep…but in 5v5…a skilled fletcher will camouflage themselves and will always hit you while you are busy trying to kill that cleric or wiz…or you are trapped in cc…they will not fight head on…once your bleeded your surely dead…and if that fletcher also has ausrine…then you are surely ■■■■■■…just same same…:disappointed_relieved:…whatever you say…a skill that has 10 sec cd and can down a character like cryo with 60k hp with just 1 hit and can still attack while the other victim is bleeding to death…is pretty stupidly op.

You do know that the sure counter to Bleed is block, stone skin, prophecy, bloodletting, and Rush right? If you have any of those up and can knock the Fletcher/scout out of stealth, it’s an easy kill.

There’s many ways to knock scouts out of stealth depending on which class you’re playing. The TBL arena is so small, it’s not that hard to figure out where they are, especially if you have teammates.

Honestly, I think you think too highly of a class that counters you because you refuse to use a shield. If you used a shield and have high con, fletchers have a very hard time against you because if you block broadhead, the bleed does not go through.

Why don’t you play a fletcher/scout and see how well you do. You’d be surprised at how difficult it is to win matches when there’s so many oracle/kabba/pd with bokor in their build. They can easily kill you but you can’t do anything against them because most of them have high con and use Aias.

Ah, sorry dude, i just blind, because everymatch, 2v2 or 5v5 i always encounter a wizard, and had to pay carefuly to them, to not to be CCed, then a shiny fletcher come to me with his extreme bleeding.

Yeah, any fletcher that is not careful enough, i can rush them to death, but still, that broadhead is surekill if its casted on me, iam a catagoon, so 2H Spear with no block.

Your rush blocks the bleed. Honestly, you can’t complain about specific classes in this game because it’s not the class that determines the outcome of the match unless you’re a oracle/kabba/pd/diev

TBL is all RNG and luck depending on who your partners are. I am 100% win rate when I have oracle/kabba/pd/diev on my team. I am nearly 0% win rate when I’m going against a team with a oracle/kabba/pd/diev. I am for sure 0% win rate against CATAGOON + oracle/kabba/pd/diev. Basically, without bleed, I cannot kill a CATAGOON. Just being a swordie, you are immune to full draw, have naturally high HP and surely if you are a pvper, you have decent con so none of my skills can kill you before you kill me. Without my bleed, I might as well not pvp at all.

Like I said, try playing fletcher/scout and see how well you do. If you become god and get rank #1 all the time, I will apologize and quit the game.

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I can kill fletchers fine if I hit em first…they die easily…base on your statement you make it like fletchers are nothing in tbl and you just kill em like they dont give a fight and fletchers cant kill you…so you mean archers miss on you?[/quote]

Of course they do miss a lot if they have that STR fletcher build. Only high dex can kill high evasion chars using physical, whether it is an archer or swordsman. AFAIK archers dont have skills that can boost accuracy, only evasion buffs. Most of the time they only have 200 below dex and pump all to STR. So it means it is possible to evade them like they do against swordsman.

Thats no longer a fletcher in question but a scout. If youre hitting cleric while that scout is in hiding, you can expect in 3 seconds below that Archer will appear to hit you, thats the best time to kill that archer, high mobility of cata can shift to the location of scout very fast, in less than a second you can approach that scout and kill using Rush, and that scout will die in less than 2 seconds assuming you have enough accuracy to land all your hits. If you are high str or high con you wont be able to kill that archer very fast, probably you wll need 5 secs+ to kill that high evasion archer. Fletcher is the worst in PVP for archers, you actually have more trouble fighting a Falconer instead of Fletchers. Hanging shot is like camouflage of Scout, you have no choice but to change target.

The person crying over why there is no swordsman in ranking was referring to 2v2 not 5v5. You can control the outcome of the match on 2v2 than in 5v5. 5v5 is more luck dependent. Swordsman is great in 2v2 since the introduction of Rhevisan.

Yep…I am a peltcatagoon…I am a shieldwielding goon…I always try to block that broadhead with c guard…aint that easy :sweat_smile:.but oh well…I already accepted fletchers bleeding op skill in tbl. And if I got hit by that…I only have 12.5sec max to atleast take that fletcher with me…:disappointed_relieved:…

Keep crying, maybe you’ll get better.

Yep…The more you whine on something…the more you get better on it lolšŸ˜…

Dont know about u guys, but hunter can beat my cata 8/10 times with their pet teleporting across screen for a stunlock to death.

These days, 5v5 is alot easier for swordies.

2v2 is entirely dependant on what class playing at that hour. Hit or miss. Rarely are there counter play.

archers are the worst pvp class undoubtedly