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Is STR useless?

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#1

Looking at the stat menu, this is why im wondering.

My Stats.

My Friends Stats:

As you can see, I went with a mix of Str and Dex, while he just dumped points into Con and Dex.
Yet, our Physical Atk seems to be nearly exactly the same?
Of course, we are using different weapons, i’m aware.
I’m using a Hogma Sword, while he’s using a Claymore, but I don’t remember the differences between the two being THAT high?
Enough to make up for 64 STR?

I mean, his Crit Atk is lower sure, but really?

Edit:
Without A Wep Phys Atk, mine is 152 ~ 152
While his is 108 ~ 118.

If its like this, should I just dump my str and buy a better wep as well? lol.

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#2

Put all of it into Dex, Your will see a big boost on Skill damage but your Auto-attack will become crap, but auto-attack is a crap in the first place especially for Archer.

#3

Str is definitely not useless. Some skills scale specifically off str. It also increases how big your crits are. I often do way more damage then people I see with all that dex.

#4

seems like dex better?

#5

Only a few skills actually with scale with str. If the skill on the wiki says x% you can assume it’s phys attack for all the phys damage classes which scales with str. Other than that, a few attributes for a few skills scale with it as well. Otherwise it’s just if you auto attack a lot. Auto attacks are pretty useless early on though. Maybe at like lvl 200 (?) when your phys attack get’s to 1k, they will be useful.

#6

To be completely honest, after trying out a lot of classes and experimenting with str, the only real reason I saw to actually stick a few points into dex was if the flat defense that comes from monsters is overwhelming you, or if somehow you found yourself carrying too much.

Edit: I’d have like 40 or 50 points on str to have a decent crit damage and stick the rest of it in dex, if I want to buff auto-attacks. STR does the same as simple weapon reinforcing, and it lets you try to kill higher level mobs, but it becomes virtually useless since they all basically give you the same experience.
Could be worth mentioning i’m a hoplite here tho.

#7

STR is for autoattacking if you find yourself having issues with SP management or have high cooldowns.
As a level 39 Pelt, I can either have 43~ more damage per hit or 5k+ extra HP.
Of course, I rather have all that HP, HP regen and blockrate than a little bit of extra attack.

#8

“TL;DR STR for early game, DEX for late game.”

STR isnt useless.

#9

What about INT? Does the same apply for it?

#10

Magic give no crit damage

No

#11

That means INT is even worse than STR?

#12

From my experience, the skill atk listed on the description is added to your auto attack damage for determining the output. Like if you have 100 atk and a skill has an effect of 50, you’ll hit for 150. That’s why STR doesn’t matter that much when used with highly-damaging skills: 300 + 1000 = 1300, where as if you put points into DEX instead you’ll get something like 150 + 1000 = 1150 but with a much higher crit chance.

Bottom line is, the damage formula sucks major balls. The fact that a class not specialized in damage will only hit for 1 on certain if not all bosses makes the system so incredibly biased towards DPS classes…
Also Level apparently is a factor, which is completely wrong in any way imaginable.

Now I feel like I’m kinda forced to pick one of those in the future if I don’t want to feel like I’m not contributing to anything, at least until they sit down and balance that out.

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#13

Just make a crit build. Go 5 : 1 Dex to Str(for crit power), 5 : 2 If you are feeling adventurous.
Crit power weapons are beaaast.

The problem with str is that, when you add 1 str it does not necessarily translate to 1 dmg.

It translates to something like 1 - ( some defence ratio ) * size and nature modifiers.

#14

STR and DEX are good, but diferent
I think STR is connected with physical damage skills. If u want grind up your skill raw damage you go to STR, or if you want more penetration, since critical ignores defense, you go to DEX
I’m a Cataphract with Hoplite Skills.
Since Hoplite have the lovely Finestra, I’ll put 50 points on my DEX, because with Trident and Stabbing Skills, I can do a lot of DPS
But if u think good, this game have a resemblance of Ragnarök Online, Ragnarök have more atributes, and all classes have a number of them, i think ToS are similar, with this idea, i will put some points on STR, CON, DEX and possibly a little, little smal amount of SPR.
Yeah, i’ll do less damage of an pure STR build, and do less critical hits of an pure dex, but i’ll have decent, Atack, Accuracy, Evasion, HP, Magic Resistence.

To finish these enormous text, we are beta testers, we can build a lot of times, we can test everything, so i think the better is don’t follow a specifically method.

#15

STR is definitely not worthless! It’s a build, and it’s not better or worse than the DEX build or hybrid build, it’s all personal preference. My personal preference is to have a TON of raw power, that’s why I’m building my swordy>highlander>barb c3>doppel as an auto attack power house. I can easily solo masoleum F2/3 with mobs 5-10 levels higher than me (I restock with 20 hp/sp pots, which usually lasts about 3-4 hours).

As I said, it’s all personal preference, pure STR works for me, my friend is doing a pure DEX build and it’s scary in pvp, but I only care about pve gameplay, so I’m good with my build.

I am also using Hogma GS.

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#16

For my auto attacking Priest3, STR is the best stat. We don’t have skills with huge base damage that scale well wtih crits.

For many many swordsman builds, DEX scales better. It even gives you dodge as a bonus.

#17

I think it’s healthy to have a 70/40 mix of str and dex. Right now I have 100+ str and 40+ dex. Normal attacks are between 400 and 700 depending on mob type and crits accure often hitting over 1000

#18

You got the same idea as me xD. Didn’t go barb though, straight highlander to dopple.im living it so far.

#19

I’m playing Rodelero. I tried Full DEX and it’s decent, but I have a lot of downtime between skills and heavy SP issues. Then I tried Full STR and I fell in love with it…except I probably should put some points into DEX since I’m missing some attacks xD.