I hear people constantly bitching about him, and since I like to take under my wing the characters that no one wants, I got fairly interested in him. I know in CBT2 that he was one of (if not the most) played cleric class due to its high dmg output, but what happened to him that now no one wants it in their team ?
sadhu isnt āOMFG THIS IS ā ā ā ā CLASS!! SO WEAK!!!ā
but it is worst cleric dmg class, weaker than priest.
im talkiing about oob, not possesion
Honestly itās not. People heard that it got nerfed (harder than I think the devs intended) and pretty much gave up on it. I currently play sadhu and itās damage is still there. You just have to set itās damage up to deal it. Sadhuās damage is still competitiveā¦ it does however have a higher skill gap than the other cleric classes. The problem is that this game and itās classes are still undergoing major balance changes. Sadhu at the time was arguably the most broken class in the game. It got nerfed, then other things got nerfed which nerfed it even more, which put OOB in a bad spot. The current ābrokenā classes will not remain broken for long. When the top tier classes get hit with the bat, all of a sudden sadhu wonāt look so bad anymore.
What does the sadhu offer? A solid amount of CC in the form of possession and OOB explosion. Decent damage from possession. If you take krivis, you can pump the damage of OOB to respectable levels with some settup. Sadhu also offers one of the strongest debuffs in the game, Confusion and negatives to all stats on mobs is no joke. Not to mention OOB auto attacks reduce defenses of enemies. As the class is now, it is a strong debuffer with some decent damage. Far from the broken class it used to be, but definately not useless, and certainly not the worst cleric dmg class >.<
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Itās not broken. Itās not bad. Itās just ānot what it wasā and that is the problem for many players.
OoB attack can be doubled via attribute leveling. It does a lot of damage and can proc very well with Elemental Damage.
i think it is the worst cleric dmg class, monk is best ceric dmg class. possesion is sadhus only good dmg skill, oob is decent, but the only reason the go sadhu is for the gameplay of it and its style. bokor c3 is better compared to sadhu c3, if u dont think its worst cleric dmg class, then which is better? its not horrible, definately stronger than some sworrdsman classes, but that saying, swordman doesnt do much dmg. sadhu is not terrible, but i woulnt rely too much on it once u get druid (if u get druid like i am)
Donāt listen to that badmouthing prick. Sadhuās are still quite decent but it seems like you need a low ping to get the most out of the atkspeed.
While your spirit does the DMG, your main body is free to cast spells. that way im able to double my effigy DMG ;D
They are not bad at all but just like any other AA classes out there, you would need a low ping to play them to their max potential. As a Sadhu myself and comparing before (300-500 ping) and after (10-50 ping) server transfer, I am attacking about twice as fast.
u can go sadhu if u want, but prepare t be dissapointed, it doesnt suck terribly, but it is pretty bad if u compare to other dmg classes
My OOB does about the same damage as my 1 heal tile.
I watched a vid with someone with low ping doing about 1.5 attacks in a second.
Iām a cleric c3 > sadhu c2 So I have minimal spells and about a 15 to 20 second gap bettween skills so OOB is pretty useful there when in dungeons/missions. I wouldnāt call it bad and it works really well with the way i play. But with one or two more spells in the arsenal with no gap to use it in I donāt know how effective itād be. the OOB casting and recalling itself takes 2-3 seconds
Monk does more damage but Monk is also an endgame rank 5 job that requires you to commit your r6/7 to maximize its potential.
Sadhu still has Druid as an option later for more damage.
Now we are talking about druid damage. But the the sadhu still bad.
Im Cleric C3 and Sadhu C2, my cleric skills hit harder than any sadhu skills. Included possession, my cure hit harder than possession, so, yeah, sadhu is weak, but i like the playstyle.
but Iām already thinking of doing some class to play seriously, because the sadhu will stay behind in any aspect, thatās a fact
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Of course your cleric skills are going to hit harder. Your comparing cleric c3 to sadhu c2. Thats 10 additional levels of cure you have over possession. Im cleric, krivis, sadhu atm. Cure is niceā¦ but it comes nowhere near stigma/zalcai buffed damage that my OOB/Zaibas attacks hit for. I think the main issue right now is peoples high expectations of OOB. They should be high, donāt get me wrongā¦ itās the classes main mechanic, but Sadhu really shines in that you can cast spells while utilizing OOB. The beauty of sadhu is, you can channel an extremely potent debuff/buffs while dealing damage then utilize your AA to deal some additional side damage. Sure, my cure and zaibas may not deal as much damage as the Monk by themselves, but add my party wide damage buffs/debuffs (siddhi/oob defense cuts) to the mix while im casting zaibas/cure/heal/possession and attacking with OOB all at the same timeā¦ it adds up in a major way. The class is listed as hard to play for a reasonā¦ your are essentially controlling two characters and this is where I think alot of people run into problems. Ideally in old tos, you would throw down some spells, back off then go to town with OOBā¦ Now you have to do all those things at once to remain competitive, but it is competitive. Quality of life improvements just need to be made to make the Sadhu less wonky to play. I have to work twice as hard to put out as much damage as some of the top classesā¦ but I can put out that damage while offering a decent amount of utility to my team.
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You can use other spells while using OOB, but not forget you stand still with 0 defense, even with fade, safety zone or wharaver, you are very vulnerable, i dont think that is a good justification for a mediocre damage of OOB.
My character is full int, I did not put one point on something else than int, and my oob hits less than autoattack from some other classes that do not have the same investment and are not as vulnerable as I.
0 defense but an extremely high evade rate. With aukuras this is even greater. I consistently dodge, and with cleric 3 you should have enough points invested into defense zone + fade to make OOB more than worth your while. Do you have a arde dagger? this further increases damage from OOB. Your damage from OOB is going to suffer with cleric 3. Cleric 3 is a huge step in the direction of support build. I donāt think arguing the damage from cleric 3 vs the damage from sadhu 1 is a very good example of sadhu damage. You have basic OOB with nothing to back it up or buffer it. I have said this in other posts and I will say it some more. Cleric 3ā¦ in my opinion is a poor choice for sadhu. There are other classes that benefit a lot more from c3 in my opinion. Also utilizing your prakriti is a huge deal for sadhu. You can straight up face tank a boss until your dz drops, prakrita out, benefit form the heal. Recast your damage spells then go back into oob. I have seen other sadhus complain about damage after taking cleric 3ā¦ its to be expected, you choose to take the third circle of a class dedicated wholly to supporting a party with dz and heal. I argue the point that I can do the same thing your c3 does, while offering party wide damage buffs, solid debuffs and keeping my party healedā¦ all while putting out more damage. People are trying to build their class around OOB with cleric 3/druid, and thatās fine if it works for you, but there are other options, and I think when more sadhus reach end game people will start to realize this.
Yes, i have a arde dagger, and i am sadhu C2, not C1, i just dont turn C3 yet bcuz i fear that will be a heavy mistake (i am already class level 15)
Im not talking about Cleric now, as much as I think is ridiculous a healing skill deal more damage than a skill make to just deal damage.
What I mean is, do not you think OOB could be better, to need such " preparation " ( safety zone , fade , etc. ) , and a arde daggerā¦ cmonā¦
Your aware that the stigma skill from the krivis tree is still capable of activating OOB hidden buff? You must been in OOB when stigma pops. The buff is perm as long as you do not leave OOB. Unbuffed my damage from AA is about 300x3, Buffed im hitting 600x3. I have fully admitted in previous posts about how much harder it is for sadhu to obtain similar damage numbers to other classes. It is absolutely unreasonable that I need to prep to deal competitive damage. That isnāt the question though. Is sadhu really that bad? No, it is notā¦ you just have to work harder to get more out of it. With cleric 3 and no krivis, you will never see OOB as it currently is become useful. I would recommend putting 1 point into oob, maxing possession/explosion/sidhu and calling it a day. My argument is that with krivis, OOB becomes useful and the sadhu is competitive.
Currently lvl 156 I think. OOB hits for around 2k1 - 2k2 ( 3 hit of 700ish)
Basically kill ānormalā monsters in 2 or 3 hits. For the large health pool monsters like pink moles, they die in a single cast of possession. (Sadhu C2)
I only have 30 CON though so Iām pretty squishy.
Monk damage is pretty meh too. Honestly, all the Cleric melee classes have bad damage compared to Swordsmen/Archers. No one wants to take a Monk or a Sadhu to ET.