Hello, have you tested Disenchat yet? What values does it reduces prysical and magical defence of monsters and how Boosted Debuff works?
Itās as if youāre implying that Disenchant works like how Malleus does (or even better, since malleus only halves). Does nully armor really work that way? Whatās the average r8 mob mdef anyway?
Isnt there a skill by miko that works like disenchant though?
Mikoās Gohei pretty much the most strongest buff/debuff dispeling skill atm(noted to remove Ausrine/SafteyWall/CounterSpell and such), itās downside is, gotta use it in melee range.
is gohei like disenchant which requires chance though? if not then its pretty good even in melee
At the moment Gohei is with 4 overheat and 8 sec cd the strongest buff/debuf removal with a 100% chance success rate. Kinda OP if you ask me 
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i already test it and cant see any diference in pve ā¦ but at pvp redeuces all defenses to 0.
at pd3 this skills will remove all bufs from 17 players and reduce defenses to 0, this is better than gohei for me.
The investment though is too heavy imo. You need to max it for 100% chance and you have to wait pd3. You also have to sacrifice some damaging skills. Weāll see though. Too early to theorycraft.
And in what scenario will you be able to hit 17 ppl with one use of disenchant? Itās not like weāre all going to line up perfectly for you .
In pvp there is always movement. The only time when youāre able to hit a lot of people is when they are all clumped up in a raise. So most of the time you get more bang for your buck with Gohei with its 4 uses every 8 seconds instead of the 52? Second cd from disenchant (with 10 points invested at c3)
Have you checked it on different enimies? If it havenāt any difference in PVE, iād better save 3,5M on attribute for other purposes)))
Cuz it sounds very cool to nullify an eney defence and raise attack of all your other skills for 25s.
sure, its very hard to get 17 players, but you will not have a limitation by skill number on gvg anymore.
remove all buffs / remove all defenses on a decent range its good for me
Not much difference (about non-existent tbh), tested it on various R8 mobs (phys and mage), perhaps itās only Pdef nullification after all. Because otherwise, it would be outperforming Malleus debuff in terms of Mdef reduction, which clearly never happened as for my exp
horrii shiiit I could see all kabba>inqui going full miko when that comes 
Yes, I think that there definately will be a lot of rerolls. The thing is; for oracle-kab-inquis thereās no room in their builds, because otherwise theyād have to give up their only anti cc skillā¦ I think weāll be seeing more miko-pdās though. Scary stuff.
Well in the miko thread we have
c2- b2- par- miko- pd2
Looks like this will be one of the new metas in the future.
Cleric is more hax now.
Iām playing with a friend doppel so PDEF reduction is very good. But how much is it? Could you test it on bosses with normal attack, please)
Just like Break Armor, it varies from mob to mob, Blue Pag Doper with 362PDef for instance would theoretically mean 362 more PDamage , but I wouldnāt really count on that exact figure tho as thereās still resistance, damage penalty and such to consider.
Iād try to update this post with proofs hopefully 8-10hrs from now
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Results, please!
Anyone tested it ? XD
Tested it by myself. No, it doesnāt work on monsters - I tried on Cerebrus and Firelord in 190 dungeon with physical and magical attack - numbers was exacly the same. But as a debuff itās very useful for my Incineration. Personally I using it all the time to extend duration and then my Black Death is on cd or resisted.
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