im thinking of using nuele card on my swordman pvp build especially against magic user. Will it give big help? or the magic damge still overpowered it?
You are not a cleric, doesn’t help.
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owh ic…so i should focus on ella or glas s mole rite? …any other card other than these two that good for pvp? may god bless you
Unless you are neither Cleric nor CryoKino nothing helps. PVP is not balanced. Swordmen are for PVE.
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Think of Nuaele as the only way of having the same mdef as +300 mobs. How do wizzies feel about those lovely mobs? c:
Yes ageed
Are Sw2Hop2Sairs3 back then and Sw3Cata3XLancers now are also PVE only now?
While it hold true that Cryo’s shield attribute and SPR built Pard’s M.def buff can get the most out of Nuales.
Don’t make it so that it’s useless for other classes to utilize it too.
As Swordman you can only do something in PVP if you are either not fighting Meta Clerics/Kinos or have Ausrine yourself. Otherwise you are doomed.
As a lancer or dragoon 2 you can kill kinos, harder for them if that swordman has trot, way harder if that catagoon is swordy 3.
Besides that, every other class is doomed against meta clerics if you ask me.
Kinos yes, CryoKinos no. You see the Subzero Shield and know that you can’t do anything against it. Only in the little downtime and if the cryo is smart he hides in Ice walls while Subzero is down. >_>
Made me lose interest in my Catagoon in PVP because well I hate if there is a comming class and a whole common tree you can’t do anything against. Lucky that Catagoon is really nice in PVE. :3
Still in a 5v5 lancer (one of many other classes) can easily destroy raise, after that CryoKino should rely in landing correctly a magnetic force (probably landed before raise, so still in CD), or icebolt. So basically a lancer destroys the whole role of a Kino even if it’s a cryo one just by not focusing him, cryo won’t offer damage so it’s okay for a lancer to destroy kino’s CC as well.
Thanks gravity pole nerf.
Can’t say much about dragoon, the only thing is this attack strikes from base to base mostly, after that Kino has every chance.
Disagreed, based on experience as a lancer, it’s NOT EASY to destroy raise of good kinos, naming Namz, Amuroz, GHOSTZ, UnderSnow.
A lancer makes raise less of a threat but doesn’t really destroy the role of a Kino.
YugiMori of Telsiai has prooved this statement wrong, but because he have invested too much gears already.
Basically a Lancer just have to wait since he can trot an avoid magnetic force or any other sources of stuff with it’s mobility. As a kino you are forced to keep your cc combo as long as possible in order to nullify their Lancer, using raise without him being cc’ed is a waste of raise and actually the whole combo. My main char is kino 3, and I basically open Tos to do PvP so yea, since they implemented tbl and rank 8 I have faced way too much different situations and it isn’t as hard as you say. Actually everybody complain and cry about kinos when they basically have 2 cc skills and one can be easily destroyed by like 8 classes.
Joust skill (skill that destroys magic circle) isn’t really as convenient as you think, not only that we need to target an area but we also need proper positioning so that we will not be affected by the circle. Given all that you can make your raise joust resistant.
Heck, a kino can go naked and still do it’s thing. Swordsman is not an easy class and probably the hardest class to play not only that but it requires alot of investment for it to perform on par with other classes.
Everybody complain and cry about kinos because they are in common sense, broken. Actually, raise isn’t the issue, it’s the OP af Magnetic Force with no known counter.
As a goon 2 you just keep a screen away and dethrone until the cryokino die.
Even if you get frozen by subzero shield, he can’t move much if he gets hit by dethrone
If he walls himself up with ice wall, just wait it out. Don’t get yourself trapped in ice wall
As I said before, is way too easy for a swordman to just trot to wait for raise, after raise is in the field getting a good position to destroy it isn’t hard. Lol PvP nowadays is a battle of Kinos against clerics with some archers and some swordmans and I’m definitely really used to watch how almost everything can make kino useless, and now I’m talking about all kinos in general.
But hey, it’s a swordman post and I’m not going to type here a whole speech of how high Kinos are ■■■■■■, actually you can only call OP magnetic force, not PP, not teleport, not telekinesis, not raise and definitely not gravity pole. Every Kino who has played kino for a long time will definitely agree with me, they have been doing everytime I post anything about this nerfed class. But it’s okay if you are one of these people who just cries about a class with a good skill and that’s all.
It’s because he’s a lancer.
If he was a dragoon 2 he wouldn’t care about kino at all.
Lancer’s just gimped in rank 8, dragoon 2 is what everyone measures catagoon PVP with.
I have both catagoon and catalancer, and have decent experience from playing TBL/GVG against good players (skilled ones and whalers) and top guilds in SEA.
It’s quite funny how that wizard guy from a low populated server, says it’s easy for this to do that, when he have little or maybe zero experience playing as swordsman.
Pardon OP, as for the topic yeah Nuale is also viable option for pvp swordsman. But you need to invest on accessories, necklace, and gems to get the most from Nuaele set.