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Is CON becoming too weak?

STR/INT has always been the meta in kToS, but in terms of survive from r1-r7, CON has been better for most builds. But for r8, in terms of both survivability and damage, STR/INT is trumping CON making con just a stat for a bit of hp and block.

Should it be revamped?

who needs CON when you have HP hats and armor

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Well maybe to make con useful you can add mdef per 2 or 3 con.

Not sure why the game is too cheap with mdef. AFAIK 5spr=1 mdef which is too cheap.

Looks like the developers want to make mage mobs GODs while effing up wizard players by adding high mdef mobs.

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IMC is just bad with math, balance and stuff, they dont even play their own game to know the problems they create. They really need to revamp every stat now the game is getting cancerous than ever.

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I find that con is in a good position. HP more or less is just a buffer and the most important hp is the last point. The lesser the latency and the more skilled the player, the lesser the need for this hp buffer.

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Then CON is a status to fix the ping problem?

Great IMC

Each time we discuss ToS STATs i miss RO even more

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No, it is like that in every game. The more responsive the game is to the player’s movements and the more skilled the player is, the lesser damage the player will take as they can outmaneuver the enemy’s attacks.

When players take lesser damage, the lesser value HP will have as they wouldn’t need as much hp to survive. And so… yeah, CON will be of a lower priority than other stats especially in korea where their internet speeds are blazingly fast.

That and invuls are just way better at keeping you alive than anything else.

CON is meta on kTOS since ever on PVP guilds.
But the real PVP guilds are already dead on Korean servers and PVE guilds are doing PVP content. Be a tanker is the only way to figth infinite stun meta … isnt about skilled players, if you have less than 20k HP (on pvp) you got 1hitKO by anything.

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tos is still tree of cleric
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lvl 20 gap is just unfair to compare.
200con looks like 20con as STR or w/e too.

and yes, cleric is too strong atm … but a well balanced group can beat any cleric group … i like to see MMOS balanced by mass group pvp (15+) and in that way TOS is just “ok”.

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Yeah, full con for PVE is just stupid.

Personally I feel that the other 3 classes don’t have enough debuff skills. The only debuffers sadly belong in the cleric tree too.

Hopefully they will come up with some skills to balance it out. Like give swordies some sort of “steal buff”… steal those R7F, ausrines for own use. So the more “buffed up” the opponent is the more you can steal.

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they need to add a reduction to recovery time on con.

Or increase the effect of HP potions on CON

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throw back in scaling defense with con 1:1 and people will be interested in minimal con at least again :stuck_out_tongue: