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Is backstab DMG bugged?

Class and Rank Archer
#21

Dream, how much STR do you have?

#22

#23

thanks

gafsd20charsasdasd

#24

Btw, are you playing on ferdi by any chance?

#25

Telsiai

/20charsssss

#26

damit, was hoping to test massive bleeding with someone who went Rogue c2.

Since its near impossible to find someone in ferdi.

#27

Just tested it. It seems to have a 100%+STR modifier. Basically your ATK+currentSTR added.

It adds 10s cooldown to Backstab for such a bad bleed damage that never crits, itā€™s awful.

#28

that actually sounds not that bad, ~300 STR + ~800 Phys ATK = 1100 bleed per tick, scales with weapon DMG.

Considering you do 10k dmg per backstab in total with current gear, it actually pays up in the long run.

Bleed ticks twice per second, so thatā€™s seems decent for a consistent DMG.
And it can go for 15 second.

If it hits hard as good as broadhead then its very good.

Uhm, can u post a picture of the bleed ticks for you?

#29

The damage wouldā€™ve been fine IF it didnā€™t increase Backstabā€™s cooldown by 10s. The total cooldown of Backstab with Massive Bleeding attrib is 20s.

Iā€™ll try posting one later.

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#30

Yes but if the bleed covers up the DMG in 15 seconds at max attribute you might be sacrificing burst DMG for more consistent DMG.

#31

I doubt the damage attribute bonus of backstab will actually affect massive bleeding. Those are 2 seperate source of damage.

Also, like I mentioned, it never crits, the damage is retardedly low. Iā€™d rather spam Backstab every 10s than every 20s with a puny damage bleed.

#32

i as talking about the massive bleed attribute, inc duration.

#33

Would still want to see picture to compare to my broadhead bleed DMG, would be very grateful.

#34

so if i want to use it, i need to go for full str build?

#35

yes, or your DMG will suffer.

#36

Though @Nekokimi screens clearly show that something isnā€™t working right.
Backstab5 (tosbase) + 550 ATK alone is 1450 DMG. Add the critical bonus and the DMG should be way over what is shown on theses screens.

Maybe itā€™s a bug exclusive to its serverā€¦

#37

Backstab5 with 167 STR got 3200 per hit vs a boss with leather armor

it should be much higher i guess, 6K dmg is just not worth it

even my twin shots do higher dmg :confused:

#38

Ticks at 2s intervals. This is absolutely horrible.

Kinda feel the same. Even though I can pull off 4k+4k ones. My normal attack spam from Running Shot has alot more burst than Backstab. Yes, Iā€™m comparing bursts within the cast time of 2 Backstabs. I can fit in several normal attacks with Running Shot in just a few sec.

Not sure if IMC ninja nerfed rogue to oblivion. Not to mention, Vendetta doesnā€™t scale anymore with class rank stat bonuses.

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#39

Movement applies the damage?

I know karacha got nerfed from 4x to 3xā€¦but it seems they ninja nerfed rogue as well.

#40

I donā€™t know. Maybe it means it does more damage if the enemy moves alot more with the debuff.

Rogue is pretty much stuck with Karacha set even till Lv280. Itā€™s pretty stupid that IMC balanced rogue around that gear set.

I wouldā€™ve been fine if it was just backstab and karacha. But to nerf how Vendettaā€™s STR getting bonus from class rank is just uncalled for.