Pros and cons of each? Not sure how to build anymore.
Frankly, I still need to do more testing before I can give a proper answer to such a question. I just don’t know enough about how spr scales minions atm. (Though it seems akin to a % based buff that gets quite high)
Nonetless it’s quite unlikely that a spr bokor will be viable any time soon, since what I’ve seen and tested so far it’s just really underwhelming.
Zombies in general have an issue with their low base atk values. Since they’re usually equal to a mobs defense they tend to get a rough 70% dmg reduction. Nor do zombies benefit of our high weapon atk values.
And even though additional dmg cleric builds are quite viable, they just don’t work well with zombies…
(Blessing for example doesn’t work on your own minions, and Transmit Prana only affects 1 minion max.)
On the bright side, at least an int bokor is quite capable. But it will need to rely on Damballa primarily (aka blowing up zombies a lot) Effigy is not as good, but more than viable.
nvm, tested bwa. it’s crap still.
I think the biggest problem with Bwa Kayiman is that it scales off STR (which like you said has poor synergy) and has to be channeled all the time, which means you don’t have time to do anything else.
Just tested the str bwa build with diev2/kabba. Let’s just say I won’t recommend it.
- Some enemies are immune to the knockback effect entirely, like Egnomes and Glizzardon.
- Mackangdal and other types of immunity/block do prevent dmg from interrupting Bwa. But only mack/ausrine help on such a mobile build imo.
- Carve World Tree was less than helpful, most of the time 1 mob remained that was able to resist silence and try to break my bwa.
- Laima can stop most mobs in their tracks, but won’t help vs ranged mobs.
- And while the dmg per hit wasn’t bad, it doesn’t actually hit often enough to be worth it. (I somehow imagined it to hit more often, I was wrong)
- And the playstyle is boring and annoying.
Oh well, stick to int bokors I guess.
Isn’t it more of a build choice depending on your other Classes rather than just a choice of INT vs SPR? I mean you can partially cover the loss of potential damage via better equipment instead of stacking INT. You could also spread the stats.
But back to the builds. A Bokor Sadhu e.g. would benefit greatly from going INT, but a Bokor Chaplain?
Afaik your own Blessing now affects your Zombies, and they get STR based on your SPR, so why would he invest into INT?
Bokor Druid would probably split the stats to cover both SP drain and potential damage.
damballa is pretty good, probably far better than full spr bokor. it’s strong enough that I think it might be nerfed. I have a +11 Windia Rod with a lv 6 and 7 red gem (550 max attack) ~no~ transcendence.
atm my bokor has 60 spr and the rest into int.
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here is a video I just made showing the power of damballa
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My tests aren’t as extensive as I would have liked tbh, but I’m out of rank resets again. So this is likely it for today:
Your own blessing does not affect zombies or conversion mobs. (haven’t checked owls tbh.)
Which means a spr bokor lacks synergy with other class options as it has nothing that scales zombie dmg aside of an inquisitor’s MM.
I have no idea how spr adds dmg to summons atm, 260 spr seems to nearly double the dmg for my zombies but the defense formula is likely messing my limited tests up.
The sheer range of dmg on zombies doesn’t help either tbh.
I could have used conversion for said tests as those mobs have more stable dmg, alas they do not get any bonus of spr currently. (should get fixed next patch, -_- )
To make it worse Bokor int/spr builds have mutually exclusive playstyles.
Int variants will want to focus on getting at least 1 zombie every 10s for Damballa. And using zombify whenever is ideal.
Spr variants will want to try to keep a full army of giant/wheelchair zombo’s up at all times to maximize their dmg.
Also, int chaplain is quite good, do some testing. You got the perfect chance to do it now.
Admittedly an int bokor doesn’t actually need int, considering it gets plenty of matk from a rod or hammer anyway.
But it’s still the most optimal stat for it.
Even spr’s sp/sp regen benefits can be completely replaced by sp potions, as basic, quest, and alchemist potions can all be used without affecting each other’s cool down.
And ofc get 25 con at least, which should get you about 25k con at 330. I’m not sure if we’ll get much of a return beyond that tbh.
Damballa is not reliable at all with the zombie move speed (maybe with wheelchair) in most of scenarios, at least in my experience (I didn’t invest in wheelchairs yet). Well, unless you manage to pull it, yeah, it does A LOT of damage, especially if you are lucky with respawning. And Effigy is REALLY good at higher levels.
You can see Effigy’s damage here:
Blessing doesn’t work on zombies. Tested yesterday. Be it your buff or from someone else. Chaplain’s Cappela doesn’t work as well.
Splitting stats isn’t a good idea IMO. You can try tho.
It’s really hard to test the defense, but I’m almost certain that it scales with zombie’s level only. HP scales off SPR and INT tho.
Conversion scales off STR already, with the attribute. They probably left it on purpose since Paladin is meant to be a STR class (although they do have some MAtk skills).
Yep. Damballa can’t be used in a SPR build and Effigy is kinda weak without INT.
I really hope that they change Priest/Chaplain to work with Zombies, maybe with Blessing adjustments via Attribute or something. That’s the best theoric option to go with Zombies. If we can at least use Capella with Zombies (basically the same as Ogouveve/Samediveve), we will be set.
Buy zombie capsules, it makes using damballa a lot easier. And placement is tricky, but you can also use tet to force zombies to walk into damballa when they get a bit stubborn.
And 50% of str is nigh worthless tbh, though we should get 50% patk instead with the next patch which is quite good.
I just expected them to be affected by spr since they’re minions of a sort, but dmg wise they’re not atm.
And blessing should affect minions imo, I don’t know why IMC is so against it.
I suspect it’s because they’re worried about it making it easier to AFK farm, but honestly, if they’re worried about that, why the hell make a Summoner class in the first place?
Well, they should be dump. Zombies still have a duration, even if it takes a lot of time to get rid of zombies. Necro’s problem is that they don’t have a duration or MP cost per second (like Sorcerer) or a decaying debuff (like Bokor). So they stay up as long as they don’t die.
Well, Bokors can be AFK farmers right now with an exploit.
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/glitch-exploit-bokors-can-spawn-infinite-no-decay-zombies-through-an-exploit/?source_topic_id=360656