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In this situation a refund by juridical means is possible?

When I was about to give then money, ocurred the practonium cube case. After that my life in ToS changed. I have money. People have money. All they have their personal reasons to not use it. This was mine.

I mean. Was your mistake invest so much after everything.

The same occured to other online MMORPG like Tibia. Who plays Tibia this days pays almost 40BRL for month (its 480BRL a year- 3 years equal 1440BRL), and then got banned? Believe me, its their choice, so was yours.

Since you are Brazilian, invest in a International Process? Well, if you choose to sell your car to afford the costs of this process in the name of your dignity, why not? :slight_smile: (even with risk of lose anyway).

Out there they already have lots of lawns for internet, we here have a few, and I really doubt any will cover about what Valve does, also, that report was from 2014, the terms of service from Steam change in a monthly or 2 basis.

Their refund police is very explicit.

I will give out an example that happened to myself.

I bought Killing Floor 2 during it’s EA, at that time, it didn’t had support for windows 10, and at that same time I was under Windows 10 Preview (it was in the testing stages), I found a way to make it work properly and I played for about 5 hours, uninstalled to try other games, since my SSDs are small and forgot the game for about 5 months.

When I decided to give it another go, the game simple don’t start, it give memory error, I ran the internet from up and down after a solution, came across lots of stuff, and none worked.

Then I decided to go for a refund, and guess what? The refund is allowed if I did play under 4 hours of gameplay.

Now I have a half expensive game in my library and I can’t even play it.

In ToS case, it’s in-game stuff, so the time is even less, 48 hours for refund.


I don’t give money to this game because there’s nothing worth in it anymore, the costumes that we most look for are all inside a RNG cube or in the exchange shop, for values that out do TP value by 30x or even more.

As you said, many of us have the money to invest in something in this game, but we won’t because we don’t find anything that is worth for us.

I have only 10 TP left in my account from the Founders Pack (the very first one for EA access), and when that is gone, the only one I will have is the 5 free TP to use.

And that is it, and I can see in the future, they blocking the selling of Token in market to try force people buy more TP.

Unfortunately, most game companies, specially Asian MMO developers, have a small mindset for business.

This kind of thing we see in most, if not all MMO out there, and we already are tired of it, expend money who think it’s worth, but I myself don’t find anything that is worth in this game.

It’s truly a shame.

I think its very relative.

While me and others say: “Don’t ban people unfairly or you will lost my money”.
Another half of players say: “Lets boycott IMC for give people compensation for being investigated.”

Then life go on, no matter what IMC decide. It is very personal why people use money or not.
My point was that ban cases like this already occured in the past, its not new. Now people can think about this again. But in the end, its personal anyway.

Oh, I wasn’t even referring to the ban cases, but in a general way.

For example, the costumes that where on TP shop, now are on Exchange Shop or the Goddess Cube that come seasonally.

While there are some that buy it in bulk, there are many that don’t see it as a good market strategy.

If they left the costumes like jToS did in the TP shop (at least it was last year when I played there)., I’m sure they would be getting even more money, same for other items in there.

In all honesty, or better, imo, Gacha system is really a bad model, I find weird people waste thousand of dollars on a thing that might reward you properly or not.

But as you said, it’s personal preference.

I understood. /20charsssssss

To OP: You should discuss it with some professional lawyer, dont waste your time in here discussing with us, professional gamer.

You’re right but as people said. It would be possible and cost more than what I could get in return so I’m giving up. But it was totally unfair and IMC is ruining a nice game.

You have to consider one thing, on Brazil, cases against big companies will cost lots, also, not all of the professionals here are ready to deal with this kind of case.

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