sure if you’re willing to pay more than you will gain lol.
I suppose this would be judged by some kind of international law, as brazilian consumer rights are enforced only with companies that have branchs in Brazilians lands… so, I bet it would be friggin’ expensive to sue IMC… Not sure really… You would have to consult a international laws specialist…
Nah, you’re completely wrong. I paid for my account and the stuffs that is on it, and I don’t have it anymore because someone behind the scenes ■■■■■■ the patch up.
Yeah, that’s a thing that I should considere. I’ve read about it and since Brazilian law has no power to force IMC to make any compensatory measure, the best thing I could get is see IMC banned to serve their services here in this country (what brazilian laws loves to do, WhatsApp got temporary ban here about 3 times last year) but i don’t want that. IMC is a ■■■■ company but yet there are a lot of people that want to play their game. I think i’ll leave it aside, even though I’m really mad about this whole situation.
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Funny guy, a dumb one though. Couldn’t you think about anything better to write in a comment?
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You have the point, but the thing is: Steam only considers ban a reason to invalid any kind of refund if it was made through VAC (kind of a anti cheat from valve from what I read) and this is there for a reason, developers sometimes drops the ball in their bans so this would guard steam from an unfair ban. Although I doubt that IMC used this VAC thing to block and further ban any account in this crazy event, they brought it from their own mind.
“Banimentos pelo VAC
Caso tenhas sido banido pelo VAC (o sistema antibatota da Valve) num jogo, perdes o direito de ser reembolsado por esse jogo.”
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I think you didn’t got it right what is there also…
This one is what is applied to any case in ToS, since it’s in-game buying.
As long as you actually recieved what you paid for (TP) there is no legal reason why you should get your money back. You’d only have rights for refund if you didn’t get the cashshop items/TP you paid for.
Also you don’t own the cash shop items forever, if you own them at all… otherwise Electronic Arts would have to refund millions and millions of dollars everytime they shut down one or their online games. You usually only pay to use them, not own them.
Also, the terms of contract states that they can ban you for whatever reason, even for no reason at all, which is a standard thing for any MMO game.
Unless you are saying that you bought the account for money (which i hope you didn’t) you didn’t pay for the account. This game is free to play.The only things you can pay for is cash shop stuff. And if someone breaks the rules and gets banned then he/she also loses the right to the cash shop items.
But hey, if people got banned for breaking the rules but insist on sueing because of the TP shop money issue, i’m sure IMC will be nice enough to send cheaters a link to a downloadable 10kb file containing all your cash shop items in binary data. While this file would be practically useless to you without being able to play the game, you’d still got what you paid for.
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What rules did we all break in this event? We played a game coded by peopel that know nothing about what they are doing or let me get it better. We played a game that is managed by people that flashs a patch to fix a mistake and instead they destroy the whole economy of the game. Let’s make some folks guilty and everyone is happy.
In the case of downloadable file that you mentioned, they would been freezing my propriety what I don’t think that is legal in any country unless there are a criminal investigation to do so.
Even if people who was proved really guilty in this case (what clearly wasn’t the case) the only thing that they could do is remove only free in game content (such as character’s level, pets and etc…) anything beyond that is theft.
The thing is, those terms has legal background in South Korea or any other country that steam and IMC provide their services?
And if you really still think that those bunch of words on their own platform means anything, check that:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/valve-found-guilty-of-breaking-australian-law-with/1100-6436074/
When I was about to give then money, ocurred the practonium cube case. After that my life in ToS changed. I have money. People have money. All they have their personal reasons to not use it. This was mine.
I mean. Was your mistake invest so much after everything.
The same occured to other online MMORPG like Tibia. Who plays Tibia this days pays almost 40BRL for month (its 480BRL a year- 3 years equal 1440BRL), and then got banned? Believe me, its their choice, so was yours.
Since you are Brazilian, invest in a International Process? Well, if you choose to sell your car to afford the costs of this process in the name of your dignity, why not? 
(even with risk of lose anyway).
Out there they already have lots of lawns for internet, we here have a few, and I really doubt any will cover about what Valve does, also, that report was from 2014, the terms of service from Steam change in a monthly or 2 basis.
Their refund police is very explicit.
I will give out an example that happened to myself.
I bought Killing Floor 2 during it’s EA, at that time, it didn’t had support for windows 10, and at that same time I was under Windows 10 Preview (it was in the testing stages), I found a way to make it work properly and I played for about 5 hours, uninstalled to try other games, since my SSDs are small and forgot the game for about 5 months.
When I decided to give it another go, the game simple don’t start, it give memory error, I ran the internet from up and down after a solution, came across lots of stuff, and none worked.
Then I decided to go for a refund, and guess what? The refund is allowed if I did play under 4 hours of gameplay.
Now I have a half expensive game in my library and I can’t even play it.
In ToS case, it’s in-game stuff, so the time is even less, 48 hours for refund.
I don’t give money to this game because there’s nothing worth in it anymore, the costumes that we most look for are all inside a RNG cube or in the exchange shop, for values that out do TP value by 30x or even more.
As you said, many of us have the money to invest in something in this game, but we won’t because we don’t find anything that is worth for us.
I have only 10 TP left in my account from the Founders Pack (the very first one for EA access), and when that is gone, the only one I will have is the 5 free TP to use.
And that is it, and I can see in the future, they blocking the selling of Token in market to try force people buy more TP.
Unfortunately, most game companies, specially Asian MMO developers, have a small mindset for business.
This kind of thing we see in most, if not all MMO out there, and we already are tired of it, expend money who think it’s worth, but I myself don’t find anything that is worth in this game.
It’s truly a shame.
I think its very relative.
While me and others say: “Don’t ban people unfairly or you will lost my money”.
Another half of players say: “Lets boycott IMC for give people compensation for being investigated.”
Then life go on, no matter what IMC decide. It is very personal why people use money or not.
My point was that ban cases like this already occured in the past, its not new. Now people can think about this again. But in the end, its personal anyway.
Oh, I wasn’t even referring to the ban cases, but in a general way.
For example, the costumes that where on TP shop, now are on Exchange Shop or the Goddess Cube that come seasonally.
While there are some that buy it in bulk, there are many that don’t see it as a good market strategy.
If they left the costumes like jToS did in the TP shop (at least it was last year when I played there)., I’m sure they would be getting even more money, same for other items in there.
In all honesty, or better, imo, Gacha system is really a bad model, I find weird people waste thousand of dollars on a thing that might reward you properly or not.
But as you said, it’s personal preference.
I understood. /20charsssssss
To OP: You should discuss it with some professional lawyer, dont waste your time in here discussing with us, professional gamer.
You’re right but as people said. It would be possible and cost more than what I could get in return so I’m giving up. But it was totally unfair and IMC is ruining a nice game.
You have to consider one thing, on Brazil, cases against big companies will cost lots, also, not all of the professionals here are ready to deal with this kind of case.
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