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IMC you were supposed to ballance the classes

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#1

…and not make some classes useless with these overnerfs!

See, I play a Cataphract and even with all the disadvantages of the swordsman class I can do pretty decent bot in PVE and PVP, and theres buffs to come to make my life better.
But what you are doing with cryomancers and psychokinos? Thats far from balance, tou are make them useless for PVP (and even worst for PVE in cryos case). Almost all cryos and kinos from my guild left the game already because they feel that their characters will be useless when theses “balances” come and dont want to start another one.
So please, for the sake of the few players that are still here, think better before nerfing classes to the ground like you are doing! Subzero shield for example is almost the only weapon of a cryo for PVP since the other spells are garbage and all it needed in my opnion was a duration nerf (like 1s duration/skillLevel in PVP, with a maximum of 13s duration with buffs/Audra and about 45s cooldown they would have to use it carefully in a battle and the enemies would just have to avoid then for a while).
Thats just my point of view of the situation, fro ma guy who likes group PVP a lot and thought these nerfs where to bif making them almost useless in PVP since they wont do theyr role properly anymore

#2

Cryokinos, weak in pvp?
What the ■■■■.

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#3

I like how everyone complains “IMC cryos freeze too much! Its a CC fest bla bla bla” and now they are all happy with the new card system that will allow some classes to stun lock saying “thats awesome! Its not bad because all you need is a Plague Doctor to counter it!” like it wasnt the case against cryos

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#4

Cryokinos, weak in pvp?

Note that im not talking just about cryo3/kino3, we had a lot of members with another combinations os classes that can do their role pretty well right now but they gave up after seeing these nerfs

#5

Then make your remembers research their ■■■■ better, it’s not IMC’s fault that they ■■■■■■ up their characters.

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#7

lol, just shut up and go play your meta build.

#8

Not ruining your build with stupid combinations is meta? Hah.
Back on you, “lol, just shut up and go play your ruined build.” and delete this thread.

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#9

like I said but you are retarded enought and cant read, their build is doing pretty fine,and thats not the point here, but the overnerfs that could have been way better.
You can be a hater of those classes because they killed you a lot (me too) but thats not a reason to make then useless now. Doing it just ruins the game and the diversity it should have, leaving only your beloved meta classes to be played.

#10

They builds are only performing “pretty fine” because they ruined their characters, they are not overnerfs and those nerfs are highly needed, they are even not enough of a nerf for how OP they are.
Too bad your m8s can’t play this game fine so they’ll be destroyed by such little nerfs.

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#11

I lol when I read the Kino nerfs. They didn’t touch on much, they simply just made Gravity Pole slightly weaker: Still had the same lockdown, still had the same damage, they just added some counterplay. Yet everyone who wants to be the highest most toxic players complained it was too much when it still let you guys have dumb stunlocking and hard superiority.

Mages have very little to worry about, even in PvP. Unless you were a Barbarian or a Sadhu, you have absolutely no idea how it is to get guttered. These things with Cryo and Kinos in PVP is actually fair and shouldn’t even affect their dominance in PvE either.

If your members wanted to play their favorite class, it shouldn’t deter them. They were Min-maxers, and that’s the thing you deal with when you min-max: Nerfs to Flavor of the Month classes.

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#12

well, thats the point for me, its not that cryo/kinos were that strong (they need a little nerf, but not that much) but other classes were bad, and these ones need more attention, but all IMC can do is trying to ruin all classes so they will be all bad and somehow “balanced” instead of make then all have their roles in a battle.

#13

Going off about balance in tree of savior is pants on backwards retarded.
This game will never be balanced, even if we hypothetically considered that it would, it would take years upon years upon years.
Not 6/3 months.

Anyone who plays even a small amount of games should realize what happens when you have this many skills, and this many classes, that they’re not going to all be potent.
Balance is also relative, lol @ nerfing to the ground.
You can be put into the ground just by other classes being buffed, it makes no difference other then a weak person getting psychologically manipulated by seeing “buff” instead of nerf.

All you can really ask for is that they can at least get 5 good damn things in each rank,that skills actually work as intended, and slowly try to make it better for everyone else from there. Nerfing Cyro and Psycho isn’t some large crime against the playerbase, especially if it takes more effort to move pieces forward then backwards.

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#14

Leave the game you also. Please

#15

Dude I was thinking the same thing!!!
I couldn’t word it better.I wish this reply was pinned and bookmarked.

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#16

Im sorry to break it to you, but your guild mates who left the game are the players no one likes. They are toxic elitists min-maxers (and ones that wont even reroll lol) that only exploit the game unbalance. Any decent player would just choose classes with some sinergy and that they want to play, not the most OP meta classes. Its a good thing they left and in most of the players opinions (not those min-maxers trash) the nerfs werent even enough to balance those classes.

Ps: Being a Min-maxer in a game in a early stage is stupid unless you dont mind rerolling because the game will change a lot and really fast.

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#17

Your ppl and others bank themselves too much on Sub Zero Shield and Gravity Pole that without it you guys are useless.

For those who stayed through the nerf,I salute you and have MAD!!! RESPECT!!!

#18

cryo/kino are so good on pvp, but try level up grind with them… all classes hace pros and cons, just stfu

#19

yeah, I bet everyone here plays meta PVe builds like fletcher3 or ele3 and theyre all amd because they cant be metas for both pve and pvp and now are happy because with 2 more trash classes

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#20

Sword1>Pelt1>Hop2>Cors2
Cleric2>Diev1>Pally3
Cleric2>Krivis2>Monk1
Sword1>Pelt1>High2

I haven’t even touched a Wizard aside me trying to go Wiz3Link3 and quitting that right after I realized how much of a snore fest it was. The difference between you and I is the fact that I have fun with my builds. Are you actually having fun, or are you sad you can’t be a walking sadist?

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