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IMC admits in the latest Popolion Post that Ichor rates are garbage and a mistake, is there any changes planned for this?

You’d think if they’re at the point of admitting they were wrong they’d at least have done something about it by now, whether it be an item to guarantee Ichor’s or changing it to not take potential, or hell even adding an item that doesn’t take potential for an attempt, Like a Golden Ichor Kit, if you will. (Potentially dropped from monsters)

Just seems kind of weird to say “Yea we ■■■■■■ up” but also leaving us to suffer through this hell for another day, week, month, whatever.

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Something like Awakening stone but, for ichor and also being able to be farmed in game

That your idea or is that their plans?

I would assume something akin to Golden Anvils - only usable at 0 pot but item doesn’t break on failure.

That would be useful too

“We agree with this sentiment, so we redid our entire plans for development in consideration to the feedback we got on the Ichor system. We’ll try and be careful not to let future plans threaten the hard work of players.”

Sounds like such a non-statement to me. I’m hopeful and optimistic, but not really expecting much.

Sorry but they didnt said that the ichors is a garbage system, they said that they understand that they are hard work and they will put something, and this is mi theory, that will allow some kind of interaction with the ichors/velco gear so that the work invested there doesnt go unrewarded…

So basically they admit its hard, but in no way they admit that they will lower it difficulty :V

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They didn’t say “It’s garbage” because they don’t talk like me, I’m Negative and Blunt and not interested in treating the morons in charge with any respect"

They may not have said “Ichor’s are garbage” but what they did say was basically the equivalent for “mature” trash like them.

Not to say they are mature and I’m not, just that humans have this idea of a certain kind of person who is above others, like a businessman, “being professional” not that they’re good at anything, just that the way they display themselves is more “refined” according to their shitty standards.

The only reason they didn’t say it like I did is because of that, they know they made a mistake, it’s just that they don’t seem smart enough or don’t care enough to correct it. Or maybe they don’t actually believe they did wrong and this is their way of acknowledging their mistake without admitting fault or apologizing. Like the people that own you.

They didnt say in any way that it is a mistake… it was designed that way… they just said that for the ppl that went to the trouble of actually made velco gear and ichored it, it will not go to waste when new gear comes in the future…

If you dont like that, well, thats another thing, but from what it was said in the popolion, they do not think they made a mistake, and heard the feedback so then next tier of gear will be in some sort of way influence able with velco gear and/or ichors…

You are the one assuming things that they did not say, and extrapolate and tergiverse the wording to something that you would like… facts not feelings dude…

Also, i truly believe that the ichors are a well design system in regards of options, but a terrible one towards the players due to the RNG nature… it is what it is, and w/e they do now it will only would bring more chaos from the ppl that actually went with all that RNG…

Finally, velcoffer raid as a sudo quote from IMC korea, “even the top 1% of players dont assure the clear of the raid”, meaning that velcoffer is not for every player :V , i assume you are one of those players that wasnt designed for :V

cheers

I agree that Ichors by design are a good thing and that the issue is the RNG portion of it, which is why I wonder if they are going to fix this. Given their statement.

The issue with HG gear is that it takes forever to get a perfect piece, so if you don’t wanna partake in gear progression (which any intelligent player is going to try to avoid) then you’re stuck with garbage gear for far too long since the drop rate for perfect primus pieces is so low.

Velcoffer is great because it allows you to work on other aspects of the gear that will be your forever gear, while you wait to find the hard part.

The issue is it’s as you said, locked behind ridiculous PvE for the “top 1% of players” Which (aside from not being an accurate %) is not even the top players, it’s the players who have the right friends. It’s not Entry level gear that you eventually upgrade to being BiS, it’s endgame gear. A great design, wasted as a prize for pointless content.

I’ve been saying this since Tera but, if you can already clear the hardest content without BiS gear, why do you need to get the BiS gear that the hardest content rewards?

One might submit the answer PvP but then why is the PvP gear being locked behind PvE content, that’s a problem of it’s own. (Not that Velcoffer is PvP gear, just a counter argument to that type of thinking.)

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