Sadly I agree with that. However I think, the best thing they can do that is to minimalize the loss.
As far as I see, I don’t see IMC to be able to get out of this situation without loss, not to mention …with profit.
That would require: communication, apologize and so on… I think all we will see is another bad option for this “3 month headstart”. /skeptictoomuch
Of course I would be really happy if I was wrong and they could stuck with a decent f2p model.
I’m sad… i cant like this more then 1 time.
Have my love instead~
badump
xD
An objective view. With what i would have prefered.
5, 20, 50, 250 tiers…
5 just acess 3 days headstart.
20 some tp + prio
50 some tp+ prio+unqiue ingame stuff
250 … prior + cool merchandise and maybe a figurine …
Heck… i would pour in money just for collectible merchandise.
Be it ingame or physical.
…
But for merchandis eit’s to late now … so.
Let’s stick with that bonus of unqiue stuff.
And not just some lame popolion headgears…
Foxy ears … in green pleaes!
Or an extra emote. Like purring cat.
Or sleeping like a cat …
you get it.
…sadly true.
IMC has ZERO communitcation skills with us.
Ethan is just a shout bot.
“Hey tell them that.”
“Ehh sure…”
Pleaes tell them to TALK to us.
Not just pretend to listen …
We want infos.
Fast and reliable.
Not “why is the server down” … 20 hours later " We had problems."
Geez what … we knew!
Maybe if your marketing guys actually TALKED or used a POLL what we want and which price section we think is okay. Then this would have turned out into a big happy hype wave. Not the angry mob from yesterday.
You delteing of the OBT announcment is cute…
IT is STILL ON STEAM xD!
DOesn’t shien a good light on you… make your superiors ready to appologize for bad wording. And bring it back online … that old news with “soon”.
Hiding faults… and denying problems.
NEVER will work out.
like:
“Hey boss, i made a new product. It got an insane boost of what we wanted! But …”
“Whoa great! Let’s sample it to customers!”
"Ehh … but… there … "
“Is there a problem?”
"Noo … "
1 month later. Customer gets a solid block of epicness and can’t do ■■■■ with it … as he needs it as powder.
Your love is accepted!
Yes, the merchandise like that would be awesome. I think many of us would be appealed by that. 
They just need to be creative with their offers.
Example from Grinding Gear Games and their Path Of Exile.
You can pay to create a unique item that will be added to the loot table of the game. This way, player pays, adds his own item to the game, immortalizes himself in the process and EVERYONE benefits from his payment, not just him, because everyone can get that weapon within the game.
Of course, the item is balanced before it was added to the game.
It’s one of the most creative, non-p2w offers that I have ever seen in a f2p game. It’s brilliant.
Well, that’s exactly what I stated isn’t it? Announcing Open Beta while in fact it’s a paid Early Access makes people feel like they’ve been misled with false promise.
And if they was frank from the start, there would be no “separation of community”, cause people wouldn’t be mad to such extent.
This is especially true if iTOS cash shop is not actually pay to win, and free users don’t have ridiculous limitations in game. The latter we still don’t even know about and I do hope that it’s not the same as on Korean servers.
That was my point - current situation is caused by lack of information and details, which made things look like dishonesty and greed.
Well there are lots of options. Also, a creative way to keep bots away is something like this:
In every hour, the game will pop up a survey, also reminding you that you should take a break and etc. You will have 5 min to answer that survey , and by doing that you will be rewarded with potions and small amount of money.
The survey will only appear if your character is actually moving so not afk, and the one hour will be counting from the active play time. So the bots wont just stop for 1 min to avoid the survey. If you can’t fill that form, you will be banned for 20min/1hour/1day so on.
Just an idea of course.
@kuwano_shin Yeah, communication is essential. I hope they will work hard on a cosmetic only cash shop. Man… I can spend a lots of money on new hairstyles and costumes! Or weapon skins…or emotes…or… so on. 
it was extinct few years ago, it always turn f2p
FFXIV says otherwise.
yOur avatar… is disturbingly cute xD…
[quote=“Athem, post:27, topic:145585, full:true”]I hope they will work hard on a cosmetic only cash shop. Man… I can spend a lots of money on new hairstyles and costumes! Or weapon skins…or emotes…or… so on.
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Indeed, I don’t mind spending money on cosmetics and such. As long as it’s not pay to win and not some unreasonable crap like “pay to trade”… cause what’s next, “pay to use your skills”?
NUMBER 1!!! BUY TO PLAY. The best choise. I want to feel free to pay in the game.
lmao I can’t believe you edited your main thread to include this. Really makes the rest of your argument questionable??
Fun is not a factor… but the service is?
The service is not entertainment?
Entertainment does not imply fun is a factor?
GAME HAS MORE PLAYER = MORE FUN is not an argument??? As in it’s not an opinion???
If you ever take a class on statistics, you’d learn that using statistics to describe an opinion implies you are talking about an argument.
(There are PLENTY of factors that could lead to more people playing a certain game besides how fun it is, anyways)
I hope I don’t seem too rude, but when I see someone that can’t seem to see both sides of an argument–I feel like I have to speak up!
I totally understand where you’re coming from, but I think you should always question your opinions. Make sure you aren’t contradicting yourself!
Also, always remember: no matter how many people agree with it–an opinion is an opinion.
I think you misenderstood that part of my text. Maybe because you didn’t read it trough.
If a game has more player = it’s more fun. No arguement here, cause the product which can get the more costumer is better one. No feeling here, just business wise.
That’s it. That means, if even if you and me prefer ToS over WoW, that wont make it successful and more fun till it has as large playerbase as WoW.
You can go by that logic and understand why I said that fun is not a factor, cause it’s a personal taste and so because of that, you can’t say that:
“My game is much more expensive, because I said it’s much more enjoyable than the others!”
What makes you say so? Having fun is based on invidual person and because of that, you can say it’s not a factor.
For a harsh example, it’s just like law. Even law is determined by something, which is accepted by the most of the people. Even if it’s ok to steal your bike for some, and they say it’s ok, the most of us wont let this happen.
The game is successful and fun if it’s played and loved by many and not abandoned. Can we say that WoW is fun? Yeah, certainly cause it’s alive for more than 15y and people still playing it and paying for it. Even if it’s not fun for me, it is enjoyable to others.
Are we clear now?
Also, this arguement is going for business model and what determines a successful game. Please do not make this topic into a “what is better game”, cause the better game is always the one which can be fun to you.
Athem you just said it all… Grats man!
Not all, but I think we should find a way which can please the most of the community.
They can send it later. Figurines would be great (though I can’t afford 250$, but if I could, I’d definitely get one))
Not to mention that the game design is literally crying for those plusshes and figures.
This needs more views even though I still want ToS to remain free to play. The other solutions are much better for me as a player/consumer.
I think the devs just decided to go with their original plan. So, thanks guys for reading and also for the mature tone of discussion.
I’m really sad about the community here, cause we have some very toxic guy here, and yet no moderation or warn.