even so right now i got rank 2 against 2 flethcer at saalus, and i hold the agro too and got knockback occasionally.
that’s why we have to memorize their attack animation, any class solo MUST kite in order to deal dmg properly, and 450 crit with cleave at 330 seems fine to me, or whatever amount for 50%+ crit
why risk your survivability for 10-15% more crit chance 
10-15% more? are you sure?
Well, since indonesian will play in rank 7 a very long time, you can do great.
Saw you with 303 crit rate so with cleve = 353.
PS: I didn’t get this
Are you saying invest in dex will risk your “survivability”?
well you dex built fencer use leather, that means i’ll lost 200-300 def and 100 dex is 15% crit for 280
from someone spreadsheet dex/str it’s shown 65% crit is the most optimal for fencer c3.
well you can have 400 str and rest to dex too for the most optimal build, im not saying that my build is the best, but it can works too.
200-300 def means 200-300 damage, so, nothing will kill you.
Dex based fecer isn’t only for crit rate, but for all dex brings like evasion and acc.
Don’t get me wrong I’m only trying to understand somethings. I was a STR fencer too and after some tests, I’m dealing more damage with dex than I was str.
this…this is exactly the problem in iTOS, 200 def DOES NOT equal 200 damage, they have some kind of multiplier
i don’t know exactly but with 890 def (gungho) and 970 def (guardian),they dealt 200+ less damage to me
you can test it with mdef too.
that if you dont have the most optimal equips, or when you reach that 65-70% crit you’ll put points in str or con anyway.
str cost too much tho,just to be equal to dex for damage
Mobs has a min~max damage just like we. If you’re not in penalty zone, the formula posted here can show you. Mobs can deal critical damage aswell.
Mdef in tos works in a different way and we don’t have consistent data yet.
are u audrey milla
top kill for yellow candle spider and upent in server laima
back to topic
how to achieve that crit rate with minimal dex, can you show me your equip composition
50% crit rate on an enemy with 100 crit resistance will take around 495-500 on screen crit rate
The problem with statements like this is that it’s true if you’re soloing. There’s a ton of outside factors depending on what you want to do in the game or are currently doing that can influence this. For example, quicken from chrono changes this due to the critical rate modifier and it favors a pretty dex heavy build over str even with the high critical rate multiplier just because the more dex you have, the more crit rate you have, the more critical rate you receive from the critical rate multiplier. This is just one of many things to consider. Also variability between monster critical resist and such because fente is only 50% uptime (which makes it unreliable imo) and seems to have a relatively small AoE, so this results in a lot of factors on its own (like what you’re fighting - world boss, groups, ET 1F style monster spawns, etc). Technically speaking you could also get multiple fencers to rotate fente. An unlikely scenario, but still possible, and another variable to consider.
The list and factors go on and on. Point is it’s just something to take into build consideration if your plan is to min/max optimal DPS
yeah that’s me
with 2 *7 gems on venier and 7 ellaganos, i can reach 400 crit easily
well my build is true solo,i’ve never been on ET ( hope for tradable ET ) and mainly just doin daily
@op
Do you plan on getting 100% or very high crit chance once rank 8 comes out?
It is possible to reach 50~70% crit chance from gear alone.
it also looks like your weapon doesn’t have a high grind value or transendence. Are you waiting for a better weapon?
Are you a player who can out maneuver the boss instead of relying on evasion?
Do you have any future plans with your fencer?
How hard is it to time the skills for their invincibility?
I had some other questions, but I don’t remember them.
World bosses aren’t really solo content imo but either way my post was directed to many readers that may use this thread and its contents as a way to build their own character
"i’m a str fencer, ask me questions"
such elitism, did you even play a dex fencer before? there is a whole guide for fencing with guys who have tested every fencer build out there.
if you have a question about fencer, please don’t ask this guy, go to the damn fencing guide.
TeamMuhammad at his finest. Salt is salty…
STR Fencer will probably outdps a DEX Fencer if you manage to get a glorious critical rate set and good party buffs, but the difference is small and Fencer c3 changed everything. At least your Crossguard is more reliable.
wow, thanks noted
but that high def, its already with aspersion buff right???
nice def 900++
Yes, a different thread already pointed out, dps from crits will be more noticeable at 3.5k+ patk which is attainable thru cards and transcend, while building crit are gear and gem reliant.
Even with a cap on it Dex still provides evasion for more survivability. And just like you said:
Seeing how Zalcia was treated Fencer3’s cant rely much on BalestraFente for crit res. reduction on its enemies.
Do we even know yet how much crit resist it reduces?
The idea isn’t to ask someone questions and then take what they say as 100% truth. What people are supposed to do is get multiple opinions about a specific subject which is why it does not hurt to ask a different person’s views of fencer.
The only problem with this type of mindset is that not a lot of people have it because of social pressure and mob mentality.
30% which is amazingly useless.
I wonder why did you pick Highlander2 and Barbarian2 instead of maxing one or another. If you wanted more AP(Frenzy/Warcry) or AoE (Seism10, Pouncing), you could’ve picked Barbarian3. Or, you could’ve picked Highlander3 for Vertical slash and Skull swing. Feels like something is missing on your build.
I’m not criticizing, you are actually brave enough to try a new Fencer build yourself, that’s valued, most people follow others (builds) trying to be the best on their class.
since im too lazy to dodge everything,and need that 1 aoe attack so i use roxona instead ( for 15% reduction from plate )
you can use vubbe or red veris and boots with dex instead.
or even leather set with 200 less def with aspersion, your call
yes it is,no gungho or guardian
