If you only had the Shinobi quest done once, which Swordsman would you have it on?

[deanoreadman]

Which Swordsman probably makes the most use out of Shinobi these days? I’ve got the one guy that’s done the quest and it was a Shinobi / Murmillo from when that was a really big deal, but while we’re able to reset using blessed shards it’s probably a good idea to shuffle it to whatever makes the most use out of it.

Is it still the Murmillo? It seems like because Peltasta C3 keeps getting more buffs and you can’t get the strike damage unless you take Rodelero C3 that there is less room for it in that build.

Any swordsman is ok as long as it makes good use of Shinobi I have plenty of space in the lodge.

I’m also having problems even finding the new list of what works with the Clones if anyone still has a link to that handy.

[Lubu20]

I’d like it on Hackapelle.

[deanoreadman]

That certainly is a Man with a Sword, even if it’s not a Swordsman.

https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/10024

[nery_ma]

this build may not seem the strongest shinobi build because it may lack some of the debuffing overall buffing skills but if you seek the class who makes the most from shinobi today is corsair!
ALL corsair standard damage skills are shinobi’s copied outside of the pistol one, so by the end of it you have more than 10k% being copied by each clone.
and the best of it; all of them have OH so you may use the shinobi trick to move things around and thus does not get the increase CD.
I myself have one with sw3 pelta 1 corsair 3 shinobi full shinobi clone build also because all of the shinobi skills work with dex outside of impale dagger, so once you put some dex you can unleash the shinobi skills very fast.
first one thing i did this build because i wanted to have a swordnobi not spear but is not the best since it lacks as you mentioned; debuffs like spear lunge or rodelero3 one.

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Now another thing if you choice to follow the sword path ; sword3 is very nice for the build but after the new pelta buffs and overall; i believe pelta 2 would be better if you do not have a problem using shield sometimes or even if you want PVP too since 100% def mdef is a lot, where pelta1 i can make with 75% uptime, some may not! so as i wanted to be a dual wield SWORDman anyway, i had to put sw3 in place of pelta2, since was the “only” option.
hope that this helps you; but also i must say again: corsair is the one who takes the most of shinobi in clonable skills % today, but is not the strongest, since it lacks overall damage buffs, for example barb 1 and doppel have slash debuff’s, reitarius and hoplite have pierce and rodelero have strike, so once you push up damage , those target debuffs really makes a difference.

[deanoreadman]

Thank you very much for the reply I think the NPC is going very soon + maintainance time where we can’t access the server and talk to it, so I think this is just in time.

I’ll have to have a good think about if this is what i’ll do because my Corsair3 has a highly upgraded Gun rather than Dagger, but it is an old out of date one, so I can afford to change if I really want to, I’ll see just what I can do with Corsair and Shinobi in a character planner, it’s a great start thank you!

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11344888di just as a first draft this could be nice, it has a vunerability from hoplite and makes use of offhand daggers in corsair and Reti

[nery_ma]

this is the very standard hop one handed build that does not follow dragon’s path, is pretty commum, so there is not a lot to comment about it .
when reitarius came out, this was my shinobi build but in the end i reseted it because the hoplite skill that shinobe can clone needs a shield, so it really does not worked for my dual wield build but if you do not have a problem with shield, is fine, since reitarius 1 outside of dagger block skill you can use everything with spear+shield, other thing you must be aware as well is the evasion decrease from finestra but overall it’s as i said the standard and very strong one, the downside for me the weapon lock problems with pistol-dagger-shield and so on, this is why i choice the previous build in the end, keep this in mind because having to change it without archer auto swap for example it really tires you after sometime.

another build i was studying for full SWORDman shinobi was this one.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11336888d..3a4a
if you finish with reitarius as well, even with sword and with pelta 2 you should be able to do pvp and do high end content as tanker-dps, since with pelta 2 you should have enough defense to handle both and with pelta new aggro skills, keeping aggro should be enough as well, this is one of the builds i’m thinking to take a reset from this event to test out, but it seems will not be possible because the event ends today and i’m not so sure is worth :(, but is something you can check it out as well the main downside of it if you choice to go with sword is this “e rete within a designated range to immobilize the enemies trapped by it. Duration applies as half for character enemies. Enemies trapped by the rete will receive additional damage from Pierce attacks executed using a One-handed Spear.” you need to use spears to gain the bonus for other skills outside of trident finish, and this is a huge downside.
on a side note as well; i have read somewhere that spear lunge +rate debuff does not work together, in reality rete debuff only work’s alone without any other buff, i did not had enough time to test in the past, but it would be wise for you to search a little in deep for this since if is true, there is no need to have hop2, so you can put hop1+pelta 2 in the build you linked above.

[shenhuehue]

I use this build
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11113888ii...1126337f8a95a5.1a22314a516571

It fun to play somehow.
Iron hook and both rete skills double your damage with spear pierce atacks.
Hexendopper/Impale Dagger/Dagger Finisher/Trident Finisher.

Quick and death is a good aoe Cleaner too but this build works with spear+pistol/Dagger.
You could switch Sw 2+3 for hop 2 for Spear longue it dont work with rete debuff but you can use it on other skills.
Double slash is a bit weak :<

Shinobi on R9 could work well i guess rete c2 is more for pvp.