@treefosavior I think people that are lurking this thread right now, knows what @Proxied was trying to say. Gold sellers make botting a living on MMOs. And as such, having electricity bills comparison with the amount of silver you make per character/computer/account makes sense in that way. Other than that, afk farming is still profit for those who doesn’t live from it and do other things in reall ife like : Working.
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^ Pretty much this. My comment were all under the assumption that you were trying to say it was not worth because of the RL cost vs ingame silver gained based on this:
Following the above statements, let me to believe you do not find it worth doing. Unless like you admitted it, they were poor choice of words to express what you wanted to say.
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No, this is almost exactly what I do. I have 3 powerful computers and some weaker ones and run multiple virtual machines on them with necromancers on each of the guest operating systems as well one on the host.[/quote]
Then you made this statement, which made me think, If he does not find it worth it, why is he running so many necros. He must find the easy free of hassle silver farming is worth it.
This last statement made think, Hmm says is not worth, says he is running 3 necros, then infer is worth as long as you dont pay for electricity. Hence my opinion that you are making contradictory statement.
Kids only think in black and white.
I don’t agree with the argument or excuse that people don’t have time to grind silver. But technically, there’s also nothing wrong as the game allows it. It’s completely different from bots and hacks as you’re not using any third-party software. It’s that simple why can’t you kids understand that?
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Yes i can understand that, but like he pointed out if you pay 0 dollars for electricity. What is the negative about easy no hassle go to sleep, to the grocery store, watch a movie, or take the dogs out for a walk silver farming?
Pros with no Cons. no matter how little is gained vs other people that cant afford to do so is an advantage similar to being able to buy P2W items. Weird analogy that fits the bill so to speak.
that explains why you missed the grey, orange and blue 
No one should be aloud to AFK farming.
Necros must be reworked. Summoners with the new SPR build as well.
Well I said technically. didn’t I?
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Just wanna know when dis necro afk farming started. I started from orsha server during early launch and dina bee grind parties were really a thing back then (or maybe the server is just ded). Kinda wish that new players gets a chance to grind on one of the best spots to grind during the lv160 exp wall (lol who am I kidding)
I gave up completing some maps…
I wonder why the necromancer summons has no time duration?
Put duration time on necromancer spells.
Now if character cast summon alone, without player, it’s a bot. Possible to ban.
“The one thing many will never be oki with is the ability to gain free currency ingame (this case silver) by doing nothing”
Repair shop
Weapon buff shop
Pardoner buff shop
Pardoner skill scrolls
Gender change shop
Enchanter armor shop
Enchanter skill scrolls
Gem roasting
Potion crafting
Appraisal
Necro farming
Literally all the ways you can do next to nothing and get money in this game.
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In order to get to the point to be able to necro farm in the first place, you need to put forth semi-significant effort just as with any other “afk” method of gaining money. AFK necro farming is much more interactive than setting up a buff shop. People are just whining because they don’t want to make a necro, or perhaps their computers or connections can’t support them being on for long periods at a time, and thus, they desire everyone’s misery to be equal with theirs.
Trying to equate afk necro farming to botting is utterly ridiculous, bots move around, they pick up loot, they heal themselves, refresh supplies, etc. Literally playing the game for you. AFK necroing isn’t playing the game for you, if you get drops, its because they land on you. You don’t get to auto heal up when a mob damages you. The only benefit to using a necro for afking is the silver you get and Maybe the lucky chance of a decent drop landing on you. I’ve taken so many instance vouchers/spell rods/hammers/gems/orbs from afk necros because they aren’t there to move and pick them up themselves. Bots are different, and honestly, trying to compare the two is just asinine.
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On a secondary note, necro’s are in a very bad place right now. They’re only good for summons, and the summons aren’t good for high level content. I have 500+ spirit on my necro, and my summons hit for 2.5k-3k. Lvl 300ish mobs have over 100k hp each. My flesh cannon hits for 1.5k per shot x15 if all 15 hit. So about 20k per flesh cannon that uses 15 corpses. Now corpse collecting as a necro 3 isn’t a huge problem vs lower level mobs, but getting to higher level ones, it puts a bit of strain on your corpse supply. You can forget about using Flesh Strike with its 100 corpse cost. Your attacks are flesh cannon(15), corpse tower (7), flesh hoop(5), and dirty pole(5). That corpse cost adds up fast, and with 100k+ hp mobs you can’t replenish it very quickly. Lets not forget that the defense on summons is also terrible, so they drop relatively quickly.
Now if you went int, you’d do more damage with your attacks, but your summons would be horrid and you’d have to rely on corpse pots that have a 30 second cooldown and only give 30 corpses for 500 silver each. Still not going to keep you with a consistent enough supply of corpses.
The only thing necro’s can effectively do at the moment is to afk farm. They bring little else, if anything else, to a group.
I’m holding out a small amount of hope that the upcoming update to summons’ AI and matk affecting damage will make them more useful, but only time will tell. Still, that’s going to solidify the fact that necro’s will then Need to go spr, making their matks just as useless as they are now.
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Oh hi dad, so do you want to destroy the silvers itself or become the selfish bastard?
If bot is allowed in the game, they should Nerf the damage for all class to the level it is same as necromancer, so every one should be equal in the game. Comparing to existing bot with those warlocks they do massive damage then necromancer.
SO YEAH I AGREE IF BOT IS ALLOWED TOGETHER WITH NERF FOR ALL OTHER CLASS DAMAGE, THIS IS EQUALITY IF YOU ASKED FOR.
Been thinking about it and came to the conclusion that i would have no problems with afk farming, if afk farmers made less silver than merchant classes
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Err what? Of course afk farming is bad for the economy and that’s the only reason I’m against it. It’s just stupid people can’t tell the difference between an completely illegal act and a gray issue.
Oh and in case you stupidly assumed, I don’t have any afk-farmer. Unless you count squire 3 as afk farming lol.
not really a big problem, they only afker i met stopped and let me finish my quest, totally cool with them
Not sure how anyone is okay with this. When actively playing the game I only make 4-600k per solo instance run, which is less after considering potion/buff/repair costs, and you can only do 3 of them a day with a token and without resets.
That kind of money coming from nowhere is not fair, or just, or intended.
@Tkwan
Repair shop
Weapon buff shop
Pardoner buff shop
Pardoner skill scrolls
Gender change shop
Enchanter armor shop
Enchanter skill scrolls
Gem roasting
Potion crafting
Appraisal
Necro farming
Literally all the ways you can do next to nothing and get money in this game.
You must be forgetting that most, if not all, of those shops have to pay material costs for those skills. In addition to that, they also get taxed by the game, which doesn’t happen if you’re directly collecting gold drops from mobs.
Even with tax or market fees you can make significantly more than necros can make in a day. Necro’s don’t make as much as an intelligent person getting the right chars set up.
I don’t think the argument is that you can’t outfarm a character that is AFK on low level mobs, I think the argument is that any character that can make the amount of silver being floated around in this thread while doing absolutely nothing, with no investment (you were gonna level up your character regardless, that can’t be considered an investment in the same way materials are), is no bueno.
Perhaps you missed the part above where I explained the usefulness of necro’s.
tl;dr they are literally only good for farming, if you’re making one as a main then you are in for a sad shock
I TRIED to make a necro work for something other than farming, I don’t have 500+ spr because thats what every necro can easily obtain. During the reset event I tried an int build, I tried a split build. I Tried to make necro work. It doesn’t. The best thing a necro can do is build full spr and afk. If someone builds a necro for any other purpose, then its because of ignorance or stupidity.
You can’t call leveling up a necro a non-investment when right now they have no other return.