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If i were IMC programmer

John just sent me this. Lets w8 :slight_smile:

Yea, sure. What do you expect their community managers to say? “gtfo”?

I’m feel really sorry for these people. Kinda.

If I were a IMC programmer…Yubby dibby dibby dibby dibby dibby dibby dum.

(inb4 no one gets the reference)

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i dunno what to say about this. other than its highly misinformed. woe didnt come until a year after the release. cards where slow as well.

kinda seems your going to be disappointed no matter what

How does the timing of the release of features have to do with being misinformed?

These are things that weren’t on release but that’s because RO implemented them. And they worked. If IMC doesn’t realize these are the things that made the game great and didn’t implement them on day 1 then they are already slow on the draw.

It’s like saying that the best part of WoW were battlegrounds, and then making another “WoWKiller” without any PvP at all. You take the best things from the previous rendition and improve upon them. That’s the Blizzard formula and that’s what makes them the best gaming company. That’s literally what they do. Every game they have ever made was copying another game and learning their lessons and doing it better. And that’s also a reason there is no “WoWKiller” because no game has ever been able to learn and adapt the way Blizzard has and improve upon their game.

IMC totally missed out on learning the lessons of RO. Again, different developers but the main developer is there. They have a great idea for a game, and it’s fun to a degree. But it’s missing out on the elements that made RO great. That’s their target market… the “RO crowd”. And if they don’t deliver on all the aspects they come to expect, (ie. Cards, Social aspects, WoE) then it’s going to be a disappointment. When TOS was first announced one of the big things everyone was asking was “are there going to be cards?” They didn’t mean cards like… LITERAL cards. And that’s what IMC apparently thinks what we want. But we don’t want a card game. We want what the old cards represented. % damage that added a reason to grind and added depth to gameplay.

the game has been out for only a week. things are going to be released in phases

this team made RO1 they know more about the game then you do. you cant have a woe feature unless you have seen how people use the characters. once some more balancing is done, there will be something like WOE.

you want it ALL out the gate. you set yourself up for disappointment.

We are talking about the state of the game now. Not the future. Do we know these things will EVER come out? Don’t know, which is why I posted it in the first place because i hope to god they do. The way it’s designed it sure as hell doesn’t look like it.

For WoE, yes, it clearly looks like they intended for that at some point. But the other features clearly don’t look they ever intended to implement. Cards, Chat rooms, Maps, etc… Too late at this point. The maps are “in stone”. They would have to redo the entire game if they wanted to make it open world. The mechanics are set at this point. Chat rooms would have to require a rework of the UI. Trade and marketplace… that’s EASILY fixable but they haven’t done it yet but I’ll give them credit since they are taking steps against gold sellers (which CLEARLY isn’t working at all btw).

All in all, What does this game offer that other games don’t? RO does have things that other games don’t. I can’t think of 1 single thing that TOS has that GW2, WoW, Tera, BnS, or some other game doesn’t do better. It’s just like every other isometric game out there. D3 and POE are clearly more in depth mechanics but still lack the social aspect that RO had. Which is the only thing TOS could have had going for it.

Ultimately, I ask the question… is the game fun? I’ve played 3 classes so far and the fun value drops dramatically after level 40. There’s no sitting in Prontera, wearing hats, making chat rooms, and vending. That was a truly fun AFK part of the system. Now you literally sit in town, asking for “likes”. That’s the socialization aspect of this game. Trade is a joke. Auction house can’t be played at all with time limitations.

The only thing to do is grind, or do quests. Which is what every, single, game already offers with better mechanics. And the things it could have done are lackluster or non-existent. Even the cashshop is ■■■■. Yes, the cashshop offers nothing to whales like me.

Am I critical? Yes. But TBH, if things don’t change fast, people will be bored fast. People get into RO because it’s a cutesy isometric game. But people STAY for the reasons I mentioned. And without those things to keep them hooked they are going to leave in droves. Because there’s nothing else to do. The music and graphics only go so far.

ok, i honestly didnt read your entire post. too long and ranty

listen dude. Im just saying that theres a constructive way to make things happen. your post was just listing all the things you wanted to see that IMC didnt deliver. all that does it make people not want to play. you are being negative and you’re not helping anyone or enticing change to so that you will see in game sometime.

go post in the suggestion category or something.

Guild wars is already in BETA on the korean servers and its more indepth than you would think.

They have plans.

The best thing we could do is support them and wait patiently for patches.

The problem with this entire community is that they have so much salt in their mouths and just spit it on every thread they can get their hands on.

Im playing both kToS and iToS, and many of the bugs that exist here aren’t as prevalent over there.

The game will get better, it just takes time my friend ;3

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You made my day, sir :smiley: