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I want to know if non cash user and cash users have a little gap in game? or is it that cash users will be impossible to beat in game?

please someone answer this thanks :slight_smile:

P2W ? Theres a few stuff in cash shop that i know like token, exp tome and enchantment scroll. But its not a threat to free players, yet.

Cash users? Like regularly spending money to buy tp user or token user?

Tokens can be bought, so you’ll end up having no difference after you pretty much get lvl 120 or something where you’ll have an easy 300k by then to purchase one on the market.

There’s enchant scrolls that will make you feel like your going places, but the chances are pretty much for whales or the lucky ones so don’t expect too many people to be higher than you when they buy these.

Also again, aoe enchant is endgame stuff for the already aoe potent classes anyway so you can just buy it on the market for however much it is nowadays. 1mil? I made that much grinding in demon prison district 145-165

So this:

Currently the game is not P2W yet. The only advantage that cash users have over non-cash users is the +movement speed which make them slightly faster. But then it can be easily mitigated by saving around 350-500k to purchase a token from the marketplace.

Having a token makes you one of the ‘cash users’ and enjoy the benefits cash users have.

Another benefit which cash users have is enchant scrolls, but then many of them sell headgear that is enchanted so non cash-users can buy them.

TL:DR: Little to no gap currently if you talk about pvp.

thanks guys it motivates us non cash user to compete with cash user if the gap is not wide yet :slight_smile:

Currently, no. I would say you have to be good at trading so you can multiply your currency and get the good items, people who got a head start (founders) will never be reached in wealth unless they stop playing. But i fear IMC is going to monetize the game more when they figure out this is a whale game (whales are players that invest thousands in a game so they can be at the top). I would also say that while there is place for skill in 2v2 pvp. GvGs will be all about who has better min max. It will be just like rag pvp. People instakilling eachother and audio chaos in teamspeak. Considering the high amount of grind it requires to get max lvl bots will only raise and raise.

As for now, no, you should be fine, getting a hat with proper enchants it’s way too rng based to be actually relevant or p2w for that matter.
I know a few people who got to level cap relatively quick as f2p users.

grinding is not much of a problems but you said there would be bots?? awww that would kill the essence in gaming using bots is a taboo for true gamers who spend time and life just to make the character stronger and stand at top of all players thats one of the reason alot of us who has been a gamer since the first RO game released and until bots and things change that killed the essence on accomplishing quest and have the items that no one can get a true gamers Valor and Pride T_T i fell bad if their will be bots allowed in game T_T andalso my friends whom ive been playing since then we had a large group of gamers like me who hate having a bots in game

of all the games ive played im a proud BLACKSMITH who is incoparable to others thats my own specialty in every games thats why i take pride in it as a GAMER i played day and nights just to be stronger and a TOP or with in the TOP 10 Strogest Blacksmith but having a BOT in a game it hurts our pride with it thats really one of our enemy for true gamers that is ive been playing for max of 3 days and 3 nights straight with a break for eating and taking a bath and exercise but thats all after that back to the game playing ONLINE GAMES is our life for people who is like me thats too bad theres a bot for this game T_T

I found it funny that no one is expecting the price of token to rise tremendously after f2p.

No one is buying token now because almost every EA player has it. Therefore the supply is higher than demand.

Imagine when it came to f2p, where every player is trying to buy it. I would expect at most 2 weeks before the token rise to at least few million silver (or at least match the gold seller value).

And yes, when it came to that point, depending on your aim in the game, the token feature can be a big advantage. +3 movement speed may seems small, it’s literally the difference you need to dominate your opponent in PvP.

Also, before you ask if the game is p2w, what’s your definition of p2w? Some define p2w as paying to obtain advantage in game, then yes, this game is p2w. Some define p2w as paying to obtain advantage in game that you can’t obtain without paying cash, then no, you can still buy most of the cash item from other user with silver.

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You mean the pay 2 win people that have already maxed their attributes and bought full roxona, 2x glad bands, sissel bracelets, max petamion, weapon of choice, catacombs / ignition / karacha ?

Yeah you will never beat them period.

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Remove Ignition, that’s a sht item choice.

Not really, even if the tick is only 80 dmg, its still equal to cata club, cryo is gonna go Aias eventually anyways and will need a 1hander, choices being cata club or ignition.

Pyro is much the same, most of the staves suck, the +9 dmg for staff mastery is laughable so best to just go ignition/cataclub + aias to.

The itemization in this game is some of the poorest ive ever seen in an mmo.