my rank 8 is soo ehhhhh, archer>range3>rouge>fletch2>hackapell
i wanted to be unique…ahaha so i guess i deserved it xD cause i haven’t learned my lesson yet, TOS doesn’t support diversity.
PSA: Follow the META or get REKT!!!
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Meta or not, anyone could tell you fletcher is a all in or nothing class.
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Hahaha lul
/20charsdasa
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That has nothing to do with the meta. In fact, there’s TONS of GREAT archer builds. You simply picked a bunch of classes that have very little sinergy with each other and that don’t excel at anything. It’s not IMC’s fault that you chose to do that
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his point is 80 classes is a lie 
class diversity just doesn’t work most of the time. meta is meta for very good reasons.
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Gonna have to agree with Bramia. Creating a good build without relying on the meta isn’t all that hard, but you do have to have some kind of focus. Which class do you want to build around, what other classes have synergy with it, what sort of playstyle is the most fun for you, etc.
I don’t know much about Archers, but looking at your build there I don’t see much of any focus at all. If you want to make your own build instead of using the tried and true options, you do have to put more thought into it than “this looks like it’d be cool”.
I read the latest news about balancing classes and it seemed to me like they’re reinforcing the meta.
I felt this way about character design as well. Cataphract just happens to look like Lancer? Elementalist and Warlock are both roses themed? It seems very intentional to me.
But what gets me the most is how the devs say “we’re looking at what you’re doing to see how we make X class work even better with that other class you’re always using it with”.
Meta at it’s finest
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this.
Unless theyre using data to fix up the common “mistakes” like barb corsairs.
Wait for R9 to ff over R8 classes?..
One day, carving owl statues will be a thing of the past…
You’re missing the point - i am saying you can’t go one build without the other. Some build force you to pick Archer 2, QS 3, Sapper 2, Fletcher 3, etc. etc.
Therefore it create restriction in class diversity.
you say there’s “A lot” of archer class build, but so i’ve seen are almost the same build in different variation,
Example;
Archer 2 - QS 3 - Falcon 3,
Archer 2 -QS 3 - SR 3,
Archer 2 Ranger 3 - SR 3,
Archer Ranger 3 Fletcher 3 Mergen,
Archer 2 Sapper 3 Faloner 3
you can easily see the META pattern.
if you try to be different, you going to get REKT
and some item/skills description makes building an unique class even harder.
Same thing goes for Cleric c2 and warrior pelt c1, etc. etc.
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Ranger 2/3 just sucks generally. They’re whole class circles devoted to +5% missile damage. All of Ranger’s skills except Barrage are terrible, Barrage is just strong enough to make Ranger 1 really good on its own.
Sorry about your troubles OP. At least you get a cool C3 costume if you’re willing to put down the cash for it.
What’s it like being literally full of ■■■■?
Most of these people are agreeing with you by stating that such meta does indeed exist.
Pointing out the problem doesn’t mean we created it
Archer2 benefits alot from swift step attribute, just like Swordsman2 benefits from Restrain or Cleric2 from Divine Might. Wizard looks like the class with most diversity in those terms. But that’s the idea, being different than the rest doesn’t mean playing a fcked up build, like picking 1 different class on every circle but play style.
Being different than the rest would be like carrying Dispellers/Miko dispellers or a varierty of Skill scrolls for different situations. Just like ET or GvG, you don’t need meta builds to actually be good at the game or clear end game content. You “just” need to work your as off to be good at Tree of Savior.
to TS, just because your build is unique doesnt mean you are useless
80 classes is a lie, and rainbow builds have no place to go such as ET and SOLMI.
oh well at least you have team level xp from that high level toon, re-roll now and get ƒucked again once rank 9 comes, huehuehue~
No builds force you to pick anything.
- Archer 2 is just fantastic for almost every archer circle
- QS1/2/3 have great utilities that you’ll be using loads of times if you didn’t focus on full dps but on support dps / pvp
- Ranger1/2/3 offer burst buff and the chance to use feint + barrage for a pretty nice damage
- Hunter and sapper are something I never touched and don’t plan to, so I won’t talk about them
- Wugu is fantastic dots. What are dots good for? Hit and run builds. your hacka would have sinergized perfectly with it because every time you want to use hacka skills, you need to get close. But you also need to dodge hits, so wugu is your solution to keep doing dps after/before using hacka skills
- Scout is gimmicky. At 1 it’s utility, at 2 it’s a tanky support nobody uses and 3 is to have something to spam. Scout3 works with literally anything
I won’t name the rest because there’s too many, but you get the idea. Each class has a role. There’s no point in using classes with roles that don’t complement each other. Your build ends with hacka, which has nice bursts so how do your other classes complement it? Rogue to go full str at the expense of tens of millions in werewolf cards instead of simply going dex and archer 2? That’s already a bad start because of how stats and gems work right now. To make use of barrage + feint? I remember you, you can make use of that with Ranger 1 and taking better fillers in between. Fletcher 2 is not bad, but it doesn’t have enough single target dps (you’re taking rank 6 dps instead of rank 7) and offers almost as much aoe as ranger, which is pretty much nothing. Ranger3 can make a good combo with hacka. That does works, but the rest just doesn’t synergize.
The thing is, your only end game dps is hacka, which is not enough and it shouldn’t be enough, because if it was, it would mean you could be a rainbow of low rank classes and fly through end game content just with hacka skills. You also have no aoe skills, so you can’t solo anything, because most maps have loads and loads of mobs, which you should know already, because you resetted another r8 char for this one. Not to mention there’s no cc so I don’t know what you wanted your archer to do
Meta is when you want a 100% optimized build for a purpose and others build can’t do equal, in your case you seem to have ignored synergy or harmony, don’t expect every class combination to work; actually, why do some people expect it? It just does’t make sense to me. Just because you have it, it does not mean it will be good to pick it, like sandals with social shirt or katchup with pasta. Still the option is there and if you yourself pick it, well that was your choice. Or just like when some kids try to paint and mix every color that is beautiful and has pretty combinations and ends up with that bloody black haha. Well that may still fit some scenarios though… The point I’m trying to get is that you can’t left discernment aside.
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