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I need some help with context

I’m going to be a brand new player to ToS this beta test and would like to ask for some assistance when it comes to context of numbers pertaining to certain skills. I hope that any answers I get will also help other players who may also have the same questions.

I’m a hardcore min-maxer when it comes to making builds and I love how the class system in ToS caters to this completely. I plan to create a DPS swordsman with a focus on DPS while dual wielding. I absolutely love dual wielding in any game and tend to focus builds around the pros of dual wielding. So far my job advancements look like this.

Swordsman > Highlander > Highlander C2 > Highlander C3 > Corsair > Corsair C2

Here is the question.

In the Swordsman tree there is a skill called “Gung-ho” and “Concentrate” with one providing bonus damage for a period of time at the cost of defense, and another providing bonus damage for a period of time or set # of hits.

Gung-ho provides +8 P.Dmg at rank 1 and +3 per rank up to +50 at rank 15.
Concentrate provides +5 P.Dmg at rank 1 and +2 per rank up to +26 at rank 15.

As far as I am aware, Corsair’s specialize in chaining between basic attacks and their sub weapon attack due to their ability to dual wield and their “Double Weapon Assault” skill. I’m wondering now if the flat physical damage increase from an increased Gung-ho and Concentrate is strong enough to warrant staying as Swordsman rather than switching to Highlander.

The reason I’m confused is that when it comes to games like these “buff’s” that directly affect damage statistics either affect one of two things; your stat damage or your screen damage or other words where the buff affects the damage formula.

TL;DR :
Is +50 P.Dmg from level 15 Gung-ho and +26 P.Dmg from Concentrate worth staying as a Swordsman instead of going Highlander if I will specialize as a Corsair?

from what i read, the only reason to go swordsman3 is this

those buffs wont do much in the higher rank anyways
and why would you go highlander>corsair? cause most go barb>corsair or hoplite>corsair

I chose Swordsman > Highlander c1 > Highlander c2 > Highlander c3 > Corsair c1 > Corsair c2 because I wanted to take advantage of the fact you can directly go to Highlander from Swordsman thus giving access to C3 highlander skills while still having space to go Corsair c1 and c2.

Highlander C3 skills seemed pretty strong just pure numbers wise so I wanted to take advantage of that.

Also Dual wield Moulinet looks absolutely sick so lol

So Gung-ho and Concentrate are useless come end game? Are they complete waste of skill points come end game or just on the weaker side when it comes to buffs? I ask this because I don’t mind going through a grueling grind process of having no skills at all if it means I can save said points and put them into somewhere more valueable.

1st thing 1st, please dont say end game.
in icbt2, we get up to rank6 only, i think i read somewhere that it would be up to rank11

So Gung-ho and Concentrate are useless come end game? nah, its not so bad.

Are they complete waste of skill points come end game or just on the weaker side when it comes to buffs? definitely not waste of skill points, but definitely weaker than other buffs. there is a limit to the number of buffs you can have at a time, as far as i remember its 6.

and the thing with highlander is they got this


and goin corsair mean you goin 1hand+dagger

maybe switching weapons after using skills would be a thing in the future