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I Love Tree of Savior, but I’m SO Disappointed!

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#1

First of all, just as the title said, I Love Tree of Savior, but I’m SO Disappointed!
Second, sorry for my grammatical errors, English isn’t my native language.

I would like to list the motives why I’m SO disappointed with the game and why I desire leave sometimes.

1 – Companions: Yes guys, companions are the first in my list, why? Because I’m Hunter C2 and I never use my Hunter’s skills, just in duels. I think the worst problem is the stamina. Every time the companion dies, it loses stamina and its movement speed goes to -3453. I spend 90% of the time without seeing my pet and I don’t know where it is, because one single hit in any map of my level (262) kills it and with the VIP movement speed buff (+3), my companion is always behind me. I can’t play as a hunter if I don’t see my pet…
Resuming, Pet dies with 1 Hit, lose all stamina, 50x foods cost 25k, If you duel it loses all stamina too and If it don’t have stamina you can’t use it right, Really guys?
No comments about AI…
But, I didn’t come here just to complain, I want to give solution too.
When I’m playing at Mercenary Post, if my pet dies it doesn’t lose stamina. It only decreases with time and that is the only place that I can play with my companion without any hassle.
And when the pet has stamina I realize that its harder to bug it, since most of the bugs I have are when it is slower due to movement speed.
Another serious bug is: When a Mounted Cataphract dies, the companion often bugs. It become impossible to use the class’ skills, which is horrendous disable.

2- Intelligence Attribute: First of all, Do you agree with me that wizards have one of the most damage of the game? Yes? Then why we have wizards with 30k HP doing the same damage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdjsdLFafHY <- A example of what I’m Talking about.

Ps. I don’t know if the game have a balancing system that make this HP, because we (iTOS) don’t have PVP… But I also saw other wizards with this HP in PVE.
It Doesn’t make any sense, in other games if you want a little more HP you need to sacrifice your damage, but in ToS seems different, mages with 150 CON can do damage like a full INT one.

3- Restrictions: I’m ANGRY about this, EVERYTHING I want to do regarding trade/market, I can’t.
“Oh, someone’s selling arde dagger for 100 talt, I’ve 50. I’ll buy +50 to buy it.” NO, you can’t.
“Oh, my boyfriend wants Aias, he has the items, just need the recipe. Then I’ll buy the recipe for them and give to make he happy!” NO, you can’t.
“OMG, someone selling Mithril Ore for 50k I’ll buy and then resell.” NO, you can’t.
“Oh, I’ll kill mage monsters. Can I borrow your Sage Wall?” NO, it loses potential.
“Oh, someone’s selling Catacombs shooter recipe, but I don’t have talt or gold bar here, I’ll buy a Token and trade in place.” NO, you can’t trade tokens.
“Oh, I made another character to make money, because my main is a Hunter and I can’t use Hunter’s skills in PVE to farm.” NO, you can’t transfer silver to other character.
And millions of examples that I haven’t listed.

4 – Maintenances: Every day for seven days, I think “What’s going come in this Update? Will the PVP finally arrive? Or will they finally transfer the Silute to a SA server? Or finally the game will reopen to new players?

And, when the patch note finally comes… “Can’t Be Taken Away (2): You will now be able to obtain Condensed Cursed Energy from Red Wood Goblins.” REALLY? One week waiting and 5 hours of maintenance for this? Omg …

5 – And last but not least, Why the companions are so ugly? I don’t want this Raticates from Chernobyl following me. Please, make Drake and/or a white tiger available companions, then I promise that I’ll forget everything above. (Just kidding haha)

Bonus: Please, release the pvp _ I never asked for anything!

Jokes apart, this is MY opinion. The opinion of a player who is since the beginning of iToS, please don’t ignore me IMC.
Thank you in Advance guys!

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#2
  1. No experience with that yet.
  2. I agree. Wizards going full con shouldn’t still be dishing out massive damage.
  3. Restrictions are to stop RMT… but add-ons have glaring security flaws, bots are everywhere anyways and RMT spam is relentless even in shout now. Restrictions are doing a great job… at making legitimate players quit. But at least the server lag is getting better :smirk:
  4. My favorite part of maintenance is waiting for the posts mentioning that IMC broke something again after fixing something. Every time maintenance hits I’m on the forums ready to laugh.
    #5.

http://puu.sh/pn9Pa/622cbc58c4.jpg

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#3

Wouldn’t removing that Animus necklace fix the Wizard problem? :slight_smile:

#4

  1. what level is your companion? did you upgrade his stats?

  2. I can tell you right now that he doesnt do as much damage. My lvl 130 cryo3 does way more damage on snowrolling. It only looks like alot because his opponents dont have much health.

3&4. no comment.

5.Id like some more companions

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#5

My companion is lv 248, and yes, I’ve upgraded it, HP , all defenses and atk … :confused:

#6

sadly to say this but hunter class is kinda screw up for now.
pet AI is bad.
and the dmg and sta of pet doesnt justify the class.

my suggestion would be for hunter and "ONLY HUNTER"
the pet sta is to be removed. so that at least they could continue to hunt,i mean seriously ,going into a pet specific class and not giving them the advantage is like giving someone a phone but not giving them the batteries to operate it :confused:

TOS has too much things that requires attention.
i just hope they can handle it with their current staff numbers

#7

they should made wizard and cleric 1 CON = 20 hp, 0.2 def, 0.2 block rate instead of all class 1 CON = 85 hp, 1def, 1 block rate so they will get less benefit and think about putting points to anything else

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#8

It’s good to voice out issues that you think will improve the game but for the sake of your mental health being just don’t expect them to do something about it anytime soon.

There’s way too many other more pressing matters that requires their attention that balances like this is really not a priority.

Try playing something else in the mean time

#9

lol trust me not all wiz is that tanky
only the pure con wiz going cyro/thuma path is that overpowered
most wiz practically get 1-3shot to death lol even with 50 con build from bosses
like wat wolfdoggie said.
it’s just Animus neck that is OP
nerf that item and u will see a sad debuff on those classes for sure.
|do not condone the every Wiz classes.they arent the same
it’s just like some archer class are too OP in dmg as well.
wouldnt we suggest a nerf to ur dodge becos of ur dex?

#10

wait is this in Ktos ? or just the past pic that they post about wat they could have in tos?
the penguins looks good xD

#11

No matter what you do, you companion will always die. Companion will never catch up to your level because it doesn’t get exp from exp cards (unless you pass it through 4-5 level 280 chars just for the last one)

And when a companion is vastly outleveled by mobs, they get killed in 1-2 hits. Usually when I run mission I see bosses hit companions in my party for 8-15k damage. Can you upgrade your companion past that?

Wiz3 - Ele3 - Warlock is also full CON and deal crapload of damage, without any difficulties as well

I fail to see how 100-200 more magic amp makes it OP, yes it’s good, but you can get that number with 3 hair accessories as well.

#12

I fail to see how 100-200 more magic amp makes it OP, yes it’s good, but you can get that number with 3 hair accessories as well.

well imagine 3 hair accessory and that then
AND u get the huge amount of hp which everyone here is complaining about.
how OP is that?

Wiz3 - Ele3 - Warlock is also full CON and deal crapload of damage, without any difficulties as well

lol wiz 3 my friend wiz 3… quick cast gives u 50% more dmg
but he wont out dmg a int build but his is a pvp build. so pve u wont stand out that much ,but in pvp he will outlast anyone.
practicallty the old “tanky dps vs glass cannon” debate.

BUT with a advantage of more hp and a necklace that helps him convert the recover which he most probably dont need into magic amp.which is OP aka back to our dear old necklace’s fault again

if the necklace is removed in this case.
would a build like that even work much?
yes but it wont bethat potent.
i am sure u would agree as well

#13

I believe Ktos does have the penguin. They have EVERYTHING!!! It makes me talty and jelly. Waits impatiently for big patch that includes GvG arena

#14

yea >< i hope so.
cos i am starting to get very sick and tired of seeing such a nice game
going down the drain.
sometimes i really blame the RMT and buyers but then again. the restriction is really a pain in the neck…

game took 5 years of development,i followed them for 2 years ,cbt was the most fun days ,grindy yes but fun. but u feel like a real world is upon u.
money is always the cause of breaking a game ><

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#15

At this point it’s just a test of patience. I have no doubt the game will get better. But how long do we have to wait until the good stuff comes :frowning: Waiting waiting waiting…

Welp in the mean time i will just make more lvl 280 alts…

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#16

not sure, but you can level your companion up so they dont take as much damage… I dont use my companion much so idk.

#17

true. grind fest is bad for health XD
we arent zombies.
i mean not everyone has that much time to play.
most of us are working class,
so we come home hoping to enjoy our selves and kill some mobs to relieve the stress from the monsters at work.

so we wont wanna work when we are home too
thus why there we so many PVP hungry players and grindfest haters.
and i think importantly, we kinda wanna play with our friends,who are kinda quitting becos of the very reasons we all stated ><
i mean if i wanna invest on so much money(i dont mind being a paid user even in pso2jp i am a prem player)
but we seek fun.boss hunt, events cute costumes and cool pets.

i have that all back in pso2jp but i came here becos i appreciate the artwork and music and it brings back my ro days and memories. lol till all the broken dreams start flooding in with the bugs and restriction XD
i am starting to turn from a white knight to a dark crusader soon lolol

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#18

The point is a full CON wiz does not need to out damage a full INT one, because, the most important point, he already deals enough damage for any PvE or PvP purpose.

So to maximize his potential, adding CON is just the way to go, not an obligation.

More like whether you want 150% damage or 120% damage and 200% HP. As long as it is above 100%, it is enough

The real debate only happen when it is 100% damage 100% HP vs 50% damage 200% HP

Yes it will still be just as potent, until mobs can out last the hail + frost cloud + electrocute combo

You see, the point is not to deal 200-300 more damage per hit, the point is to kill the mobs within 1 combo. As long as you can do that you don’t need to get all the top end gears

I grinded from level 180 to level 230. My companion is now level 190

Like I said, without exp cards, companion will never catch up to you.

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#19

That was spot on, this is the biggest issue with this game right now and the sole reason why mages and clerics are so strong. It does not matter whether you’re a full con or full int your damage is the same. If you were full con you should not have any damage whatsoever. They need to address this asap.

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#20

you must know magic attack = can’t do anything to avoid it, m.def gain from stat and equipment are much lower than p.def. physical attack can be dodge, block that’s why magic classes still needs more nerf especially in pvp

this is the first game that i have seen mage/ healer class can be both tanky and high damage also that’s so faken breaking the mmo 's balance

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