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I love the game but small things are chasing the player base away

I never encountered them since you’re going to to be in dungeons and grinding parties for the rest of your life from lvl 50 onwards.

They tried a “fresh start” with ROSE Online way back in the day. The game never recovered. Lesson learned from that, RO, FlyFF, and many many other games - is that you don’t screw with the game to try and stop/solve botting. It hurts the playerbase at large a lot more then it hurts botters.

If anything else, they should just open up a new server.

Bots? Where are the bots? I don’t see any bots in Klaipeda server have several days.

either you’re new or have no idea what bot means

have you not seen those typical archers with the same hair style and hardly no armor at all in tenet garden at lv.70?

perhaps those lv.30 rangers killing hanamings in west siaulai woods? (not seen that often but there were usually 1-2 every channel)

did you not notice the lv.70 cleric priest 2 bots in tenet church f1?

have you not been to forest of prayer where necromancers / sorcerer with half-assed gear never respond and hunt all day and night?

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Yeah still bots in crystal mines, tenet garden, tenet B1, tenet 1F. Also a few spam bots hanging in klaipeda ch1 every day.

There are tons of other issues with ToS and that’s what make people quit? Lol. They should just play candy crush instead. That’s bot free. How many minutes does it even take for you to finish a quest line in a whole map? You’re only going through those maps once and for only a few minutes ffs.

wait a minute, how does it only take a few minutes to clear all of the quests in the lv.280+ maps lol? do you happen to speed hack or are you a pay to win customer? or you must play a fotm class…

it’s actually boring questing a few minutes going through the map only once (assuming all maps take few minutes to complete the quest lines)

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Where in your post did you mention 280+ maps? Lol.

actually i didn’t include any level range o.0

“exploration in tree of savior felt linear, it’s just your average generic quest grinder, clear quest then move on to the next map rinse & repeat.”

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I was refering to these maps you mentioned. I had the impression people are complaining about bots in these low level maps as if they could never get to level 100 because of bots. It’s still a problem but people don’t realize there are no perfect unexploitable programs. People are too whiny and rage quit just because they saw a couple of bots in low level maps.

yeah there are indeed alot of whiners in the international versions of mmos but i find them necessary without them we can’t expect the company to put their effort in solving the issues. i really appreciate it when they care (dfo is a good example of this)

i’m also guilty of quitting numerous games because i saw a couple bots running around, ironically i still played blade&soul despite them having millions of bots, instead of quitting i took thousands of screenshots and spammed the support to deal with it. (literally)

i just can’t stand games that let bots do what they please inflating the economy, just look what happen to ragnarok… everything worth 800m-1b zeny or even more, that killed the game for me lol.

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I definitely agree that constant criticism (I don’t like calling it whining because it’s productive in some capacity) is a very good thing, and that it helps keep a Developer paying attention, but there is a difference between it and and falsehoods or over exaggerations. Over exaggerations can often have the opposite effect because a Dev can’t take seriously a bunch of players that don’t know what they’re talking about.

I played MapleStory and that game has some of the worst inflation out of any MMO. I watched prices go from hundred’s of thousands, to millions, to billions, it was a disaster.

The GM’s here in TOS had said it before though, there aren’t that many traditional bots that are causing trouble, most get banned before they are able to obtain items or silver, the real problem is AFK’s and high level botting. They are the ones that cause the economic problems, and given their level/equipment and bot quality, are often harder to detect.

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I’ve been playing iRO for the past year and bots actually lower the price of important items like mats for brewing, essential cards and other consumables. And that is a good thing in a way. There is no massive influx of new players and the players are mostly mid-tier and elites. Probably the reason it hasn’t ruined the game is because they aren’t that many to a point that they interfere with open world grinding. Also, the main areas for grinding and farming that are not easily accessible by bots. Those that can are easily detected and banned.

As for ToS, it’s probably a different matter since silver can be acquired from mobs in the open world which would definitely cause inflation.

I mean they could just delete Orsha and make a fresh server. No one would even notice.

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There is always bots in Goddess’ Ancient Garden aswell.

Bots don’t make people quit… they just demoralize a lot. To the point you just start seeing every flaw the game has and then start considering about quitting because nothing gets fixed (and with some people, start playing dirty because they know they wont get punished!)

Starting from scratch is no bueno, though

Clean wipe lol
A lot more people will quit the game than playing

The thing is, even after you wipe the server clean, I don’t think the bot quit coming back into the game, …that’s how MMO is nowadays (at least most of it). And IP banning them aren’t helping as most of these guys are using vpns (rather, multiple level of vpns)

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I’ve been saying they should merge Orsha and Klaip and open a new server when they release ToS 2.0 here but the few remaining Orshans are afraid of the Klaipeda wallet warriors.

Those are the bots? Before they used to run around everywhere in the game, are they secluded now?

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