I have a full STR sword3-cata3-dragoon-lancer2. It is amazing at single target/bossing, but during the dungeon run I find it hard to kill large mobs and am constantly out of both HP and SP.
I think I just don’t like cataphract. What would you guys suggest to improve my AoE ability?
I also notice my lancer is quite low on max HP and is quite squishy comparing to other swordies I have. Is catalancer naturally weak on the defensive side?
Most lancers I see in game are PVP focused and they are the most difficult class to kill
this may be due being full CON and the recent trend of exchanging sw2/3 for pelta2, guardian buff is huge.
I don’t see lancer as a good class for PvE, sure the Crush+Quintain combo is great but after that you will have to wait the CD. Cataphract sure lacks a lot of damage, the movspeed is great but not really needed in PvE content.
Have you tried the Hoplite>Dragoon build? this can be a good option if you want to try something different
Get a Falconer friend. Or get some more AoE. I’d probably drop Sword 3 for Pelt 2. I’ll be resetting to Pelt 1 Hop 1 Dopp 1 CataLancer myself.
Small Elixirs are pretty cheap nowadays.
Play Elememe. Even with Lancer 3 skill, AoE is mediocre on a good day.
Get some CON. Sometimes I regret getting 50 CON, but most of the time I’m thankful that I did. However, I also have full CON gear as an alternate set, just in case. I default Leather when doing non-important things.
Thanks for the infor guys. Lol suggesting another build like elememe or hop-goon is not needed as I have both of them already, and I know they are much more pleasant to run dungeons comparing to lancer. I was just wondering if I did something wrong as a lancer, but yea as expected lancer is more of a PvP class than PvE, like therhay said.
I will reset it into something else then, or just use its SUPERB movement speed to complete maps XD
I used to main Cataphract then Lancer for a while… a long time ago, back when Rush was great (borderline broken) and you could solo dungeons and uphill super fast and easy if you had attri points, a nice weapon and Rush. Sadly though cataphract imo got nerfed into the ground. I forgot which patch did that. I’ve tried many builds with cataphract and many with lancer but right now… 2h weapon classes for swordsmen aren’t really worth it imo. I’d even go as far as to say even playing swordsman isn’t worth it right now, and I literally have 5 or 6 of them just collecting dust. I’ve tried to make them as worth it as other classes but no point PvE wise for the most part.
What really made me laugh was seeing the videos of swordsmen with really great gear, the ones with Fencer and the Doppel, they made vids of soloing stage 5 and/or 6, cutting it super close to failure. Then there popped up a video of a cleric soloing stage 7 with meh gear and time to spare. There are also vids of wizards doing CMs with ease.
Lol yea. I think last year I was grinding at demon prison with cata3. I was like “wow this class is so fun, fast movement and rush kill everything so quickly”, but at higher level this class is quite underwhelming at dealing damage…
So from an elite player’s point of view (not me), what would be a reason to play swordsman if they are usually outperformed by clerics? Other than simply liking it or more fun.
Are swordsman better at PvP? Tanking? Cost efficient? Or what?
Swordmans are actually pretty good at PvP, unfortunately block is still a big problem so classes other than Retiarius and Lancer can have a hard time when dealing damage. Lancer and Retiarius can 1 hit people and are tanky as f with guardian buff, imho they are in a better spot than DPS clerics atm.
well for me there’s no reason to play a swordsman right now. I stopped PvPing a while ago, it wasn’t fun playing in something so unbalanced and pvp only occurs certain times during the day so most of my day playing and maining Lancer was useless lol.
But up to you… some people still like to brag about how great they are in TBL.
How do Retiarius deal with block ?
I think the shield removing skill has C3 attribute that made it unblockable. I’m not entirely sure though.
“…I loose more matches than I win but feel the overall satisfaction when overcoming the odds and natural disadvantage archers have to score a victory.”
This is from someone with an archer main, although I main a lancer, I share the same sentiment nontheless. So to speak, for others like him and me, playing underdog classes and making it ‘somewhow viable’ is more challenging and satisfying than playing already powerful classes by nature.
If you see an eagle flying high that is normal, but if you see a kiwi flying low… well that is something.
You couldnt say it any better.
Anyone here think that the Lancer C3 Attribute of Rhongomyniad Vulnerability is not worth it? Increase CD by 20 second (40 seconds total) and can only makes the skill deal twice the damage at most.
I literally 1 shotted a monk yesterday using that thing xD well 2 shotted cuz of revive
Yeah I don’t think it’s worth it unless you really need the burst.
Has anyone tested Dragoon2 Lancer2? I wonder if it’s a feasible PVE-oriented build.