Most cool to you, not one bit to me. I got 3 +16 in the past even when I’m not using cheat or incredibly rich. Same with many other that got +15 that is not incredibly rich or cheater. So I don’t get why you have to be so negative when you can’t afford luxury item.
@redwea your post don’t make much sense.
First you said people don’t need to be incredibly rich.
Then you say its a luxury item.
Or then you would probably say (by looking into your last words):
“its your problem if you don’t have luck, and others have.”
The very fact it is all based on luck alone, is already everything horrible.
if you are trying to defend this system, ok, its your opinion, but the system is still stupid. It became something for the very end game because of the cost.
Specially being one of the cool things in ToS, and MMORPG in general, create so much difficult for it, make it useless to general players.
Oh yeah, you still suggested me to use a very cheap weapon just for cosmetics to walk around while I do nothing. Great, very great.
First of all, +15 is not required for any end game raids after rebuild I am sure you are fully aware of. Second you don’t need to be rich or exploit to get +15, RNG based sure but not impossible.
So with that being said, is it game fcking broken and stupid because you did not put enough time into it to get something “symbolic”? Do you need to have a doll following you for Velcoff? If there is no doll you will get kicked from party? Sure if there is a 100% way to get to +15 is nice but no the game does not offer that because it is a Korean grindy mmo. You didn’t get the memo?
This is came from someone (myself) who has 4K hours in tos but none +16 weapon. All my ■■■■ ended up at +11 with golden anvil. And I never post anything say the game is stupid because there are RNG element in it especially after the rebuild weapon value modification. I am not defending the game design but tell you the fact you are asking something unnecessary to be necessity.
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get it to at least +11 with sockets, if you’re lucky and goes above +11 then that’s great and trans it to 10. The difference between +11 to +15 is not really much. The real damage comes from trans which you can easily grind for it and has a 100% chance of succeeding.
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very well said.
#mustbe20chars
@edisonsun09
1 - False bravado does not make a point better. You just agreed with me, accepting the system instead critique. This do not mean its good or right.
2 - its a end game because of the COST, not because the benefits, you not even read the posts. SHAME. @shinralol00 Your first post you talk about damage. What the problem with you people TO try to read the topic before try to defend someone with useless information?
3 - the rest of your post is just annoying garbage of someone trying to protect other people, with useless comments. Why the hell you try to defend it, if you put very clear that it’s a korean game, that is based by luck, basic repeating everything I said? And by the way, other games this is much less expensive, or work just as Transcending system, where you can put items to not lose potential, expensive, but still accessible. Diamond anvils are out of reach because they are very limited, just as other people in this post already commented.
You two got triggered probably because its a girl, with a cute photo, or maybe, just maybe its a long time player that you all know, yet you agree with me, just saying it’s all fine because it’s the game, the world and whatever. You @edisonsun09 and @shinralol00 really need to better arguments before defend a point of view.
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well, you can do something instead of just complaining here. For example: Go apply job at TOS korea’s HQ and change the anvil coding directly. Or apply at iTOS’s HQ, and change your save data directly…
less talk, more action
Funny
What Else?
Lets ser where It goes
Most game always about luck or whales for luxury stuff. Lower your expectation, you might be happier in your life. Good luck.
Can I use Golden Anvil until lv +15 right? Then the bad consequence would be just that with potential 0, I can never sell your weapon again.
If I am right, that is the cheapest way to do it right?
can you tell me any consequence to a weapon with zero potential beyond it can’t be traded?
since when player A can ever sell player B’s weapon??? AFAIK, player A can only sell player A’s own weapon, unless… hackermen
So i guess TOS need to free gift shine weapon effect to all player, then put more Effort and money player just get same as others.
You wan to get something, you have to give something. Doesn’t that sound fair enough?
nice meme thread
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I can give two Claps 
. say blah di dah
and look at part of your answer for more or less 15 seconds, before closing the tab. that is already too much deserved
always the same talk.
so If I don’t have the +15 +16 weapon, I’m only complaining because of that right?
so if I have it, it is what?? what is the excuse? You all were the one that got personal, instead think in the whole system, in the people don’t have the money or the so-called luck. what about thinking more in the others? But what makes it even funnier, is see you guys defend this system, then telling it doesn’t matter to you all. Why the hell you defend it then?
also @shinralol00 @edisonsun09 @myself
you guys think the images on this post below are Very Funny right?
about being fair or not… aside from the posts above:
so if a certain guild exploits the channels to do these weapons, and someone buys these weapons (maybe recommended it), then it’s unfair. But if someone has luck and other not is not unfair? wtf occur in your heads? This happens a lot.
well, this post already has become useless. You all deserve the way the game is. And the number of players in the game. I could cite how details in the game can literary change your game experience, how little details suck you into the game, but I will not.
Don’t expect other responses, because, common, so much useless comments, wtf. It really has become a meme thread.
a weak sword yes, but pretty beautiful. Please don’t use my sword as a new excuse, because will make no sense. Also, I will give a break for a whale in ToS Forum. Makes no sense debate it anymore. you guys are right, I can just stop play, players don’t deserve improvements in the gameplay. Have fun with the game!
Aite goodbye. Remember my advise, lower your expectation, you might be happier in your life 
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nope, i think that image TS posted is show off, not funny at all
I would never go +16 if have to sacrifice socket… but nvm its only a 350 weapon.
little boi, we are just telling you the shine or no shine does not matter much. We are just telling you that at the end of the day if you can get +11 with remaining pot for socket thats the best option because real damage comes from trans. You ask for ‘‘anything less cost’’, so we are giving you opinion on how not to waste money just to get it to +15/+16 cuz the difference is little. Why are you tilting boii smh
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