You keep saying this, but transparent about what? No developer would ever give explanations on how bugs/exploits are performed, whether they exist, or details on ones that are patched that are harmful to the game. IMC is no exception and I’m not sure what you’re even looking for here. You’re no better than the other people at this point when you’re repeatedly giving plausibility to hacks and exploits that do not exist (for refining).
Misquoting me is not funny or interesting.
Now let’s say you actually reported it to STAFFs and they find out it was actually a new exploit.
Result: player caught, logs checked, bug fixed.
xD
Last time I PM’d a staff about items in market seeming to be from a net of bots transfering silver to each other actually made the same names stop appearing after some days lol
Be transparent about bug fixes, state of the game, what’s actually happening.
Yes I’m no better than them, you think I’ll stay calm and normal after everything that happened? No. Dismissing everything thinking that the game is in an OK state is much worse.
They don’t even need to show how they are performed, just confirmations that they exist or if they are in progress of fixing it, again most of them are hidden under the rug.
It isn’t fun to lose friends, I’m actually very mad right now when I just made new ones.
We keep on losing old players, new players come and try to queue lower level dungeons and think the game is dead. Devs are doing things too slow, very little progress updates, very little bug acknowledgements, see what I mean on being transparent?
I remember before we didn’t want a publisher to handle the game and let IMC take it, it’s because we “could” get updates faster, but what happened? A publisher might have been better because there’s a contract. Sigh
You basically explained what i think in the last sentence you wrote.
I played a game called Microvolts for 6 years (2010-2016), devs(korean) and publisher(Canadian). basically 0 communication between the two. The only good thing was the Mods team and the community manager (do we have one in TOS?)
Then it closed, without even an announcement, and i thought TOS was far better.
When i joined in summer 2016 the Q&A were weekly, it was fine.
I just feel the same as 3-4 years ago
There was a monster hunter event that people could get diamond anvils, attribute points (some people got 300kk on attribute point) there was no limit on the cube event and people could basically get a ■■■■ ton of diamond anvils from the event by upgrading their pet… Those anvils also lasted until r9 came so it was easy to use on 350 weapons and get +21 or higher. It was the most dumb event and our server was a test for it since ktos got it a few weeks ago with nothing broken like that.
I agree with you on the other things. But…
No one is doing this. That is a troll/etc saying on forums and you most likely blindly follow that.
Just a quick note on how doomposting/trolling make bad feelings go far worse.
That’s why you talk about existing stuff. They already posted about it back then, they fixed it, many old players that logs in every day confirms that the exploit people keep talking about is highly unlikely to exist.
There are even coding explanation to how easy it is to fix:
Just save the weapon state right after enhancing instead of when changing channel/maps/disconnecting.
Everyone understands how frustrated you are and they share the same feelings in different ranges.
I have friends who left the game after they started to repeat troll sayings like a recorder machine until they eventually got tired.
I know, you know, the main reason is that issues exists. Yeah.
But you’re giving the very example of how bad repetitive trolls posts affects and amplifies your bad feelings.
We all understand how you feel about that.
But please, stop to think, what is there to gain to keep redoing trolls step with lies or overestimated stuff? What are you really doing?
Answer: Probably making a close friend or another quit out of reading/listening to you repeating troll’s sentences like a recorder machine.
You don’t need to go down that route. For you’ll be taking part in actually making the exact thing you’re frustrated about far worse.
Yeah. It was just like that.
But, did you actually kept looking at what happened? Most people I know that saved anvils actually didn’t get Masinios recipes in time.
I know it isn’t your intention, but this is another example on how your words can trick people into generalizing and saying “everyone that got a ton of diamond anvils used all anvils and got a lot of +21 masinios gear”.
Just another example of what I’ve been saying ^, altho not as bad but can have the same overestimating effect if someone spreads that way.
The choice of words is actually a powerful thing.
Lies, rumors, etc…
This is how it actually all began, i do not want to bring this up anymore but for the sake of discussion…
Initially many thought DPK was a lie, a lot of people saying it’s pure RNG, “no Dev would implement that”, etc.
Luckily there are dataminers and dedicated people ready to test things out, I myself did because it’s the worst drop system you could do in the game and initially I did not believe it as well.
At the start, the staff team lied (or maybe they themselves did not know) about dpk. Later on devs admitted to it and proposed different drop systems. Again, problem with transparency.
These things start with rumors or suspicions to get things started.
A rumor will remain a rumor, lies will remain lies, I’ll do everything on my part to find things out, if I don’t, they’ll remain a rumor, a lie. That’s why I’m still playing, if by chance I found a real issue that’s not been acknowledged for weeks, months, I’ll leave, similar to DPK system that made me quit before.
They need to limit the upgrading cap to +15 to avoid that crap and get rid of ridiculous Trascendence in pro to keep the game’s difficulty/challenge/fun
Prove to me that there ISNT someone out there exploiting with some unknown method to get +26 weapons easily.
Checkmate, Atheists.
Smells like hook. Hook64.
Diamond anvil + hook64 feature.
hook64 its a feature… go check some topic about hook64 thats enough proof to leave game.
but not enough to leave this lovely forum apparently
Eeh, where did they lie? Source pls.
Transparency on arguments and claims pls
Quick question: Did you actually farm during DPK and after DPK?
As much as I agree with you that % drops are better overall. DPK was actually better to farm Lv.315 gear’s materials for the simple reason the % chance was too low.
DPK value mored effort for single long-time farmers and gave more silver total reward based on the time you actually play. It’s unfair if you have less time to play, for other stuff, people stealing etc. But it was still better for me farming as a Thaum, which by chance was how I geared my main from T2? or T4? to T10. It was far better for centralized profit (few farmers selling to high amount of people).
% drops valued more luck then effort and gave more drops but less silver reward because more people gets more drops and total count is mostly based on luck instead of time spent, giving an inconsistent amount of materials. In the same way DPK can be unfair, % drops were unfair because “unluck streaks”, sometimes you’d spend 2-3 hours to get 0-3 drops (Swell Body) where DPK would give you at least 6 drops (Swell Body), but you could get lucky and get 10+ drops against 6.
DPK was the reason you quit before.
% drops was the reason I quit farming for profit and took months-long break for only doing events and nothing more because there was no point farming 3 hours to get 1 drop and sell for too cheap, felt like wasted effort/time.
You literally can’t please everyone.
Now that we have all drops planned with decent % and looting chance mechanic, things are far better than before though.
When we have no evidence to resolve the proposition, we may suspend judgment.
Checkmates back.
His post has 4 Likes (now, probably 100 soon) and according to ‘Jungle, Troll and Doom Law’ this means he does not need to show any source, but instead his post is now 110% Truth and Facts. 
The channel crashing exploit was fixed therefore it’s impossible for another exploit to exist even though there was another enhancement exploit in the past in addition to the channel crashing exploit.
This statement is somehow considered absolute truth and questioning it is trolling.
Being an “old player” is also somehow a valid argument. For example:
I’m an old player and I’m telling you that anvil exploits do not exist
The rumours will never stop for good reasons. The whole enhancement system is stupidly frustrating and anti-fun + the game is known to be full of holes and exploits.
Revamp anvilling and fix your game and there will be less frustrations and bad rumours.
IMC should take a hint.
Everything happens for a reason.
Ooh, source?!
@Memester I’m so sorry you misunderstood every word that me and some other people posted on these forums in decent understandable English that anyone interested in reading can understand.
Your view of people that claims of that “currently, enhancement exploits doesn’t exist” is deeply wrong.
Let me explain it in a simpler way that anyone interested in discussing can understand:
No one claims that it isn’t impossible for another exploit to exist.
The only problem people have is that you’re actually making a positive claim.
A positive claim is an assertion that something exists.
The burden of proof is upon those who make a positive claim.
If you’re assuming the burden of proof you should actually provide proofs or source. In this case, you can provide even something minimal that isn’t a definite proof with the only requirement that your argument can’t be promptly contested by a concrete counter-argument.
Example of unproductive arguing that won’t get you nowhere:
Person A: “Enhancement exploits currently exists because they existed in the past!”
Example of Person B outsmarting Person A:
Person B: “Enhancement exploits currently does not exist because they were patched in the past, thus, current exploits are also patched.”
In other words:
There’s no instance of concrete reports of new exploits.
It could simply be possible to exist in which you should be humble instead of claiming it as truth, here, read more:
TL;DR:
Status quo is that no anvil enhancement exploits currently exists and the old ones are patched.
If you’re going to make a claim against the current state of things it’s just natural to expect you to provide a valid ground for your opinion otherwise it’s also only natural to understand that you’re either not interested in the topic itself or actually incapable of arguing.
No no. It’s “no publicly known anvil enhancement exploits currently exist and the old ones are patched.”
edit: I’m not replying anymore because of the crappy 5min cooldown, but I’ll just copy paste what I wrote above a couple more times so you can better understand.
No known anvil enhancement exploits currently exist.
No known anvil enhancement exploits currently exist.
No known anvil enhancement exploits currently exist.
Read again, please:
If your argument is that enhancement exploits currently exists is due to “they happened before”.
One simple counter-argument is that all enhancement exploits are patched because “they happened to be patched before”.
To make it even further, one can provide a STAFF post that marks the date around when the old enhancement exploits were actually patched:
Thus supporting that enhancement exploits are patched simply because they happened to be patched in the past.
