@LunarRabbit and @Remiri well, I am talking about the right of the consumer to complain and demand a better service, and how this can be done in a correct way.
If all options have been exhausted, using slightly more aggressive options like a negative review is not wrong, it’s a player’s right.
Tell me how much players don’t have a bad experience with the game… the question is that the ones who had problems playing is the majority, and is absolutely normal that people complain… I don’t understand why others still bother so much with complaints here… the game is not going to shut down because of complaints, is going to shut down due imc incompetency… complaints are not the origin of the problem, it is only a sympton that the things are not fine… understand?
Are you well aware that the player who posted complaining about golden/diamond anvil usually trolls around the forum and what his post you linked was?
If you’re not being nice expect people to not be nice to you. If you’re making fun of people, expect even STAFF to make fun of you at some point if you’re annoying enough.
Whatever you may call it, I find the answer funny knowing the whole history.
So are you saying that it’s alright to do wrong things when you feel someone doesn’t act the way you want? Because that’s what it sounds like with this reasoning.
I can not speak for others, but I can speak for me and my friends.
Now, assuming problems being things that make the game unplayable
I don’t have problems for a long time, and even when I had, on release, it wasn’t unplayable. Most technical problemas that I see people having never happened on my rig.
My friends had lots of problems since release, but it was not long ago that all of them returned and started playing without much problems. Some don’t play anymore, but that is because they are MOBA addicts. Can’t help it.
This in no way means that there are no significant number of players having serious issues.
I’m not sure if it is the majority, but if it is, they sure have the right, I agree. I will also say, please complain.
Because they are annoying. That is how complains works. Of course, the objective is to annoy IMC developers, but we all know they don’t read this forum directly. However WE do. And we expect a forum filled with build and game content discussion and also polite complaints and reports.
I TOTALLY agree. I never tried to imply complaints are not symptoms and that the cause isn’t IMC. If I failed to be clear with you, please, forgive me.
Without a reply from a GM or a staff member we can’t say a thread it’s actually useful in changing their mind.
It’s not “obvious” and i don’t see any negative consequence in answering “we will submit it to devs” or “nice suggestions” or “ty for your feedback” under some threads that are not TP related.
I love when staff members actually reply (like recently in the fan art section)
They are not encouraging players to give a feedback
i dont agree with you i dont think he was trolling
no i said a more aggressive approach, expressing how you feel about the game in any way is a wrong thing, the OP is just explaining how we can do this for players who do not know.
You know who I am in-game @LunarRabbit so I hope you are not referring to my main post being troll about the situation because I rarely (if at all) come to these forums to post. On another note, @STAFF_Amy replied to the wrong post and apparently didn’t understand the topic. If you look at my reply to her post I tried to explain it better to where she should be able to understand it. Yet, I never got a reply back which is pretty frustrating. I have been a dedicated player since early release with 5k+ hours but I finally reached my boiling point with all the BS and felt the need to create that ticket/topic.
People who had problems with tos is clearly the majority, you can easily see it in the steam charts. What left in tos is only a littls percentage compared with the playerbase one year ago. Is clearly due imc incompetence . You may not have problems in your server, in your computer, etc. But I am not talking about self experience, it is about of community problem. We are not conspiring against imc, to tos fail, we are claiming for a better game just it.
However, I don’t think STAFF replied to wrong post there given their old history + position of her post + other posts in the middle. They clearly clicked the 2nd post’s Reply button which is far from the 1st/opening post and far from the numerous posts between their reply.
And as a player who skipped the same event for the very same reason I don’t want a compensation for that event given how many people “who skipped event on 20 accounts” would get free diamond anvils.
They know they did it wrong, they fixed it, really late. But there’s nothing to do at that point. We can fight, discuss, extend the topic and anything else, there’s just nothing to be done about something which is in the past.
My point is:
What complaining about it now is going to do? We already got new events with accurate rewards. We already got an event with a wrong announcement and it was fixed on day 1.
Using this old complaint on arguments with other users over and over have no value at all. There’s no reason for them to take it seriously if you complain multiple times about something that is already fixed and gone for long enough.
Yeah, I hear you. I only made the one ticket/topic about the situation and have already moved on. For now I’m just taking a break until new content and other things are improved. See you around lunar.
Same. I never took the time before because laziness and hope (and honestly, also because I don’t care).
But tonight I had free time \o/
TOS isn’t 100% bad, it brought me a lot of good times so it will always stay in my heart (or something cheesy like that), and I might keep checking how it’s doing for years.
But that doesn’t change the fact that :
most of the bugs are never fixed or regularly come back,
they too often ninja patch things,
they don’t play their own game,
they keep countless of restrictions that make no sense,
they have no inspiration or originality for events (although the ones lately have been better - bugged, but more interesting),
they don’t care about exploits,
their ticket staff is unwilling to help and you have to spam them in order to get things done,
the combat system in PvE is uninteresting and has no mechanic,
there are no end-game contents
the game still regularly lags, freezes, desync, kicks people
I see that TOS has more cons than pros, I post a negative review, simple as that. Because I really wouldn’t recommend this game to anybody. It has way too many issues at the moment to be worth spending your time on it.
It’s a shame, really Such a beautiful game with so much potential. But who knows, if it survives a bit longer maybe it’ll get better. Although there’s probably a source of all the issues (Management ? Devs ?) and as long as they’re still on the game it will probably not improve.
All events have some kind of problem, and this situation has been repeated for 1-2 months alread, negative review is not the best solution but a decent solution based on how the IMC has behaved. its not shady stuff or wrong every player has the right to express himself about the game.
being polite, clean and organized, thats fine for me but if there is no reply its a waste of time, and noone wanna make a well write text where the IMC dont will read, reply or give a feedback.
Is even considered a solution? Especially when Steam itself acknowledges Review Bombing as issue. As a side note, I reported the OP on steam community report system for breaking the rules. If it works or not, who knows.
Abusing systems like this is frowned upon regardless of your intent. It’s against their rules for a reason. To be honest I’m quite sure nor you, nor me nor OP knows to how much extent Review Bombing affects the game or even steam system.
So, I’ll ask again:
Are you saying it’s alright to use not allowed stuff/abuses/exploits/bad/wrong things just because someone doesn’t act the way you want?
You are failing to argue about the problem and forcing your point of view, you are not directly responding to my point of view further by forcing your point of view.
The OP in my opinion is showing how it is possible to be heard by IMC, and it is in no way wrong because he is not proposing that all do a negative review without writing the reasons, the game is in poor condition, the support is very bad , bugs, exploits, lag, everything is wrong.
And your positioning is to have faith that everything will work out and writing well written and clear texts about problems will be the solution to everything when the company does not even read what you wrote.
lunar still argues with a bunch of people over nothing? you sure have alot of free time lol
op botting or not has nothing to do with writing “true reviews”
the game is neglecting the community and ignores all of the "not allowed stuff / abuses " exploits / bugs and milks off tools, it doesn’t deserve fake “positive interviews” and doesn’t encourage imc to do better at all. infact the people that wrote positive reviews should be dealt with for review bombing it as well considering it shouldn’t be positive with all this neglection going on
steam reviews shouldn’t be forged and everyone has the rights to know the truth, the tos community needs to stop scamming new players into joining this dying game.
do note imc is also well known in korea as a corrupt company for allowing 6 devs and 2 gms wreck havoc in granado espada with spawned fully upgraded endgame gear / buff potions capturing every the forts and maximizing the taxes in every land, only 2 gms were fired from this incident. so you could see why tos is going astray.
It’s against Steam rules, that’s the only thing I’m complaining about and the only thing I’m caring to answer this topic.
The OP is suggesting to exploit User Reviews. There’s no reason to put that under nice names.
So, I’ll ask again:
Are you saying it’s alright to use not allowed stuff/abuses/exploits/bad/wrong things just because someone doesn’t act the way you want?
You have reported, right? So now let’s wait steam decision, if they consider OP action against the rules, they wil judge it, not you. Don’t forget to share their decision to us.
I do not agree with you, and by answering your question I do not usually act with misconduct in any situation, I will wait for the response of your report to see if you are right and this is considered a “Review Bombing”,
For me its a guide for player that never used to review and a toll that can be used to improve the game.