Hello guys, for swords3>cata3>corsair>lancer FULL PVP what would the optimal stat distribution ?
I don’t want to invest too much in dex/crit since mages/clerics can get 470+ crit resist in pvp.
for a lancer str isn’t really necessary, so the best way to stat yourself is with dex, for accuracy because there are archers with 1500+ evasion and having at least 800 accuracy helps
personally my lancer got 120 total con rest dex (like 330+)
and my catacombs pike has 3 lvl 6 red gems, so the physical attack is high and i make very high damage
the red gem on the weapon is because as you said, critting in pvp is pointless, but so is adding str for lancer because initiate is REALLY good against block, you will not need anything else (you do have the 40% block penetration mastery for cataphract which helps too)
you can add some str if you want, but i wouldn’t go crazy on str because you do need accuracy (and evasion is nice too)
you can also do a high con build if you want, since with the new gear tbh you can get enough damage only with attributes transcendence and red gems. Damage has to do with gear and attributes and not stats in pvp imo.
The latest KTOS patch buff all cata dmg skills including rush wich got a 1.5 modifier. I am tempted to get some str to maximize rushs damage.
Whats the formula for accuracy vs evasion ?
you can increase rush’s damage by having high lvl red gem, high weapon enhance, high transcendence and ofc, attributes.
3x lvl 6 red gems gives you 720 maximum attack, which is more than str can give you
attributes increases rush damage by a 100%, enhancing your cata pike gives you +225 physical attack, transcending it can give you anywhere between a 100 and 4k physical attack depending on how high your stage is.
headgear can give you 123 physical attack, 360 total. So the damage is there, and its better to have dex and con for pvp survivability. I have 0 str and my rush damage (in pve) can reach 9k per hit on cloth mobs (about 6-8k against leather and 4-6k against plate) in pvp the damage is going to depend on your target, my rush in pvp can do anywhere between 1k to 4k, depending on how gear the enemy is, some people have more than 1500 physical defense [quote=“matheuscrosara, post:4, topic:337265”]
Whats the formula for accuracy vs evasion ?
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not really sure if there is a formula, but now at rank 8 800 accuracy is pretty standard. If you can get more than 800 accuracy you’re good.
The evasion formula is:
(DE - AA) / (0.3605*DL +18.64) * (AL^0.335)
Where
DE = Defender’s Evasion
AA = Attacker’s Accuracy
DL = Defender’s Level
AL = Attacker’s Level
So… for archers with 345 dex(8x ellaganos) with lvl 10 swift step = 685 evasion @lvl 200
A swordsman with 200 dex has 400 acc, that results in only 50% hit ratio…
So I guess I need to go full dex after my 100 con, I did the math with DL/AL 200 and no boots and gloves equiped for both sides.
Another question: What cards are worth it for lancer ?
ellaganos or nuaele for sure.
We have the same build! your question is pretty much been answered by the previous posters.
The reason why DEX is highly favored is because of the recent patches. Damage gain from headgear/gem has been greatly buffed while crit rate/accuracy gain didn’t grow that much thus it’s more practical to get damage from headgears/gems/transcends and stats for crit rate/accuracy. The STR stat is mostly for block penetration, but since you are a cataphract with block penet attribute and a lancer with block penetration buff, it’s likely unecessary.
Stating is a matter of preference in the end of the day. Just never ever put SPR or INT as a swordsman. lol
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i cringed.
/why20though
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Have you tried damage reflection cards ? I have glass mole/ellaganos sets I think will test some mandara/abomination.
Shame that maleus malleficarum does not have property…
Is sw3-cata3-cor-lancer easy to level solo? I had the same build in mind, but I am concerned that it is too hard to level solo.
not sure about corsair lancer, but my sword 3 cata 3 dragoon lancer soloed the entire rank 8 questline.
I’ve solo’d Full Con Linker-Chrono, full con peltasta-squire and other painful classes, you can solo all quests with pots, pardoner buffs, arde dagger, cafrisun set and jumping "skillz"
And patience I guess?
Surely many classes will do the job better, but the point is that it’s not impossible to solo any class (in quests, that is)
I’m just now making a Sword3 Cataphract 3 and it’s a breeze compared to full support builds
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Just normal, not hard and not easy. It’s just that i felt useless when I grinded in Timerys(290) because I mostly depended on my cata rush, others are pretty much single hit skill.
That’s what buying 2 x +90 SPR bracelets in TP shop are for. 
Id recommend 1:2 CON DEX or 1:1 CON DEX. You get the important benefit (Block Penetration) of STR from Initiate, and putting yellow gems on your gloves. STR Hasn’t been known to scale well with lancer skills, I reset my lancer from 400 STR to 45 STR and 350 DEX, and while the damage of my auto attack did suffer, I noticed skills of Lancer don’t really suffer. Being able to crit, hit and dodge was far superior to the damage of STR.